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03-02-10, 04:15 PM
I know this may seem intrusive but rob seems to smoke a lot. This is obviously bad as may reduce his time on this Earth, accelerate the pace his vocals decline with age and his live performances. These are still brilliant however i thought perhaps if we started a thread giving reasons why rob should stop smokingh and urging him too he might take notice when on the site and use it as an intipece.
Other reasons causes cancer and if robbie is going to start a family it could reduce his time with them in his old age. It will allow him to produce music for longer and perform it and hes quit tougher substances than nicotine.
Some of u may think im an interfeering whatever but its in robs best intrests!
LilMiss
03-02-10, 05:40 PM
I know this may seem intrusive but rob seems to smoke a lot. This is obviously bad as may reduce his time on this Earth, accelerate the pace his vocals decline with age and his live performances. These are still brilliant however i thought perhaps if we started a thread giving reasons why rob should stop smokingh and urging him too he might take notice when on the site and use it as an intipece.
Other reasons causes cancer and if robbie is going to start a family it could reduce his time with them in his old age. It will allow him to produce music for longer and perform it and hes quit tougher substances than nicotine.
Some of u may think im an interfeering whatever but its in robs best intrests!
You´re absolutely right.It would be awful,if Rob develops cancer.We all want only the best for him and this would not be the best!So please,Robbie,stop smoking!
Oh Please his a big boy now
He knows the dangers of smoking like all smokers know
And the more someone tells/asks you to stop the more you do it.
Its the only vice he has left, leave him be and if and when he wants to stop then so be it
his choice .
It is certainly not up to us to tell him what to do, and I'm sure if he read this he would phsl
and say a few naughty words.
Leave the man be, there is enough people out there invading his life without it happening here too
-elena-
03-02-10, 06:51 PM
Oh Please his a big boy now
He knows the dangers of smoking like all smokers know
And the more someone tells/asks you to stop the more you do it.
Its the only vice he has left, leave him be and if and when he wants to stop then so be it
his choice .
It is certainly not up to us to tell him what to do, and I'm sure if he read this he would phsl
and say a few naughty words.
Leave the man be, there is enough people out there invading his life with it happening here too
I totally agree...
LittleMonsterFriend
03-02-10, 06:58 PM
yeh mee too :)
if he did wanna quit i would gladly help and support him in it as it is my job! :D But yeh he has gotta want to do it himself and will if/when he is ready :)
miss understood
03-02-10, 07:10 PM
if he did wanna quit i would gladly help and support him in it as it is my job! :D But yeh he has gotta want to do it himself and will if/when he is ready :)
yeah, i agree, theres no other way , only when he is ready then he will do it but he has to feel he wants to quit, i quit or 9 mths, its not easy, im smoking again though but i will quit again soon, its like that though, us smokers try and start and quit n start, its normal,
he will do it when he is ready, :) but i can recommend the patches rob for when u are ready ;) x
Leanne-00
03-02-10, 07:53 PM
so maybe people who have given up could give everyone here some advice:)
I am ready to quit but not sure how to go about it, I have cut down so much over the last 5 months and now feel its time to make the jump! how hard is it to do? Miss, you mentioned patches, is that what worked for you? my mother got some tablets from the doctor and they worked for a while but now I see she is smoking again. I think that when I do give it away I won't be able to have a conversation on the phone ever again:D thats when i automatically grab a *** and take the phone outside..without even thinking!
Has anyone tried being hypnotised, or does the old fashioned 'cold turkey' work best..I have cut down in preparation..I'm hoping that makes things easier, I don't really want to affect everyone around me if I get angry or something either. What about food, is it true that you eat like there is no tomorrow..
I have tried many times to just stop but for some reason I don't have much success..
I am really interested to know how it all works, what to be prepared for etc.
Leanne-00
03-02-10, 07:54 PM
*groans* So the swear filter doesn't like the slang term for cigarette..Starts with F and ends with G..:D
I went cold turkey. Smoked a packet a day for 10 years. Depends what your incentive is I think. I had a chest cold, was rushed to hospital and had emergency surgery that night - a laparotomy for a twisted ovarian cyst. Believe me, wake up and cough your lungs up just after having your stomach cut open and it is a good incentive to stop. Haven't had a cigarette since that day, 20 odd years ago. ;)
I did get the shakes really bad for about a fortnight - and had difficulty with having a coffee and no cig - also what do you do with your hands??? Other than that it was OK within a couple of weeks.
so maybe people who have given up could give everyone here some advice:)
I am ready to quit but not sure how to go about it, I have cut down so much over the last 5 months and now feel its time to make the jump! how hard is it to do? Miss, you mentioned patches, is that what worked for you? my mother got some tablets from the doctor and they worked for a while but now I see she is smoking again. I think that when I do give it away I won't be able to have a conversation on the phone ever again:D thats when i automatically grab a *** and take the phone outside..without even thinking!
Has anyone tried being hypnotised, or does the old fashioned 'cold turkey' work best..I have cut down in preparation..I'm hoping that makes things easier, I don't really want to affect everyone around me if I get angry or something either. What about food, is it true that you eat like there is no tomorrow..
I have tried many times to just stop but for some reason I don't have much success..
I am really interested to know how it all works, what to be prepared for etc.
I have been Hypnotised, but didn't work, went cold turkey and eat for England.
But everyone is different, you really have to want to do it for YOU and YOU alone for it to work
I guess I wasn't ready to part with them, I have cut back a bit so thats a start and at the moment I'm just getting my head around the fact that I want to stop, if I say it enough times though out the day, I might get there.
The last time I stopped my kids near left home lol grummpy had nothing on me.
but i don't stop trying and I hope to succed one day, mind you that day could come soon if they put the prices up again *Groan*
Leanne-00
04-02-10, 03:01 AM
well thats it isn't it...they are going up so much its gonna be cheaper to buy a packet of patches than cigs..lol..I'm ready to give it a go...I think..yeah, Im sure that I think Im ready to give it away..oooooooh see, Im all over the place..we have these ads on television which are very in your face and they have really had an impact on me as well..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YjrkBYDDQM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_BF8l-tT0g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEc-Rsv9pMc&feature=related
How's yer eyes..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mFl-x_6m-Q
their latest one has the mother sitting at the Dr surgery and she gets the bad news about the big C..she then has to go home and tell her kids she may die:eek:
miss understood
04-02-10, 03:23 AM
i went to a group and it honslty worked, and the pathes do work too
Thumpelina
04-02-10, 06:29 AM
Oh Please his a big boy now
He knows the dangers of smoking like all smokers know
And the more someone tells/asks you to stop the more you do it.
Its the only vice he has left, leave him be and if and when he wants to stop then so be it
his choice .
It is certainly not up to us to tell him what to do, and I'm sure if he read this he would phsl
and say a few naughty words.
Leave the man be, there is enough people out there invading his life without it happening here too
Agree with you Linny!!!
Jazz 67
04-02-10, 06:32 AM
I've been a smoker for 30 years, and the thought of giving up scares the hell out of me.
Basically I don't know any different, I was 11 when I started. I've managed to get down to 10 a day.
I had hypnotherapy when I was 19. It stopped the craving, but I just missed smoking so started again.
What will make me give up? I honestly don't know. I would like to be a non smoker.
I have had family members die from smoking related causes.
One very close family member who had quit 9 years ago, got lung cancer and died, so I think sometimes whats the point, even if I quit I could still get cancer.
I look at my son and feel very guilty, how could I be doing this to him? and still I don't quit. He tells me I should quit.
Willpower is what is needed to quit, and I just don't know if I have enough.
My hubby had a heart attack nearly 2 years ago, he was a smoker (about 6 a day) but has never smoked since. He would never tell me to quit as he knows it is up to the individual. You can never tell a smoker to quit, they have to do it themselves.
This is probably the longest post I have written in here. :o Sorry
Official Troll
04-02-10, 12:33 PM
I used to complain endlessly to Uncle Derek about him smoking cos I didn't like him doing it. :mad: He was barred from doing it in the house but if smoke came in from the window or if the silly man had left the door open I'd tantrum and whine and cough and cough real hard cos I wasn't happy about it. He used to do it in his car and he said that I don't have no say in that cos he owns the car, (he doesn't own Meanie Mummy's house, he ain't got no money :rolleyes: ), and he'd make me sit in the back breathing in his fumes. I'd whine so hard and make him feel uncomfortable. I'd whine to Meanue Mummy and tell her to tell him. He'd have the window open but that wasn't good enough. I still smelt it. I told him he'd make me and Meanie Mummy and me die from passive smoking. :mad: I told him I wasn't happy. He quit smoking after a few years of having me on his case. :mad: He was sick of hearing me moan. :)
LilMiss
04-02-10, 12:54 PM
You´re all right.It´s his own choice.
But if he want we will help him
I used to complain endlessly to Uncle Derek about him smoking cos I didn't like him doing it. He was barred from doing it in the house but if smoke came in from the window or if the silly man had left the door open I'd tantrum and whine and cough and cough real hard cos I wasn't happy about it. He used to do it in his car and he said that I don't have no say in that cos he owns the car, (he doesn't own Meanie Mummy's house, he ain't got no money :rolleyes: ), and he'd make me sit in the back breathing in his fumes. :mad: I'd whine so hard and make him feel uncomfortable. I'd whine to Meanue Mummy and tell her to tell him. :mad: He'd have the window open but that wasn't good enough. I still smelt it. I told him he'd make me and Meanie Mummy and me die from passive smoking. I told him I wasn't happy. :mad: He quit smoking after a few years of having me on his case. He was sick of hearing me moan. :)
Really, why am I not surprised lol :D
I have to admit I hate the smell, yet still smoke, go figure :rolleyes:
Official Troll
04-02-10, 01:01 PM
I have to admit I hate the smell, yet still smoke, go figure :rolleyes:
Do you want me to help you stop? :mad: :mad: :mad:
Do you want me to help you stop? :mad: :mad: :mad:
No thanks I would rather stick pins in my eyes pmsl
Nay I am planning on giving up for lent (fingers crossed)
Thanks anyway
Official Troll
04-02-10, 01:09 PM
When's lent? :confused: I'll poke you and ask when the time comes just to make sure. :)
I sometimes wonder if smoking is as bad for you as the do-gooders would have us believe.
There was the case in the paper of the woman who died at age 115 and had smoked 15 a day every day since here teens.
My two grandma's had smoked all their lives, strong ones for a long time with no tip, and they both died in their mid 80's of totally unsmoking related illnesses.
What really really annoys me is when a very overweight person lectures me about smoking :( I rarely drink and keep slim with a sensible diet and exercise.
I don't think we were put on this earth to be perfect in every way.
I also think it's in your genes whether you smoke or not. My two sisters take after my mum - all 3 hate smoking. I take after my dad who chain smoked - as a child I would lie next to him on the sofa smelling his smoke and thought it was lovely LOL However, my dad did stop smoking when he was about 60, and I've never found out the true reason why, as in whether it was a health warning from a doctor.
My sister gets worse coughs and chest infections than me and she's never smoked.
It's all confusing.
At the end of the day - each to his own.
As for Robbie - surely we should be congratulating him on giving up the booze and drugs rather than focusing on one negative thing. He's looking fantastic at present so smoking can't be harming his heath that much !
When's lent? :confused: I'll poke you and ask when the time comes just to make sure. :)
Lent is before Easter, Starts the 17th Of Feb
we all give up something in my house the kids give up cake and sweets
Maybe you could give up something.....hmmm let me see, using less smilies would be good
pmsl :D
Official Troll
04-02-10, 01:23 PM
Its a serious waste of money. :rolleyes: I'd always tell Uncle Derek he could afford to buy me stuff I wanted if he didn't waste his money on stupid fags. How much did he waste on them? Thousands. :rolleyes: He should have been/be paying my mum more in board rather than leaching off her but she always sticks up for him because he hasn't got loads of money like us. :rolleyes: Leach. :rolleyes: She should have left him in Spain where she found him! :mad:
Official Troll
04-02-10, 01:24 PM
Lent is before Easter, Starts the 17th Of Feb
we all give up something in my house the kids give up cake and sweets
Maybe you could give up something.....hmmm let me see, using less smilies would be good
pmsl :D
Urrrrmmm........
NO!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Jazz 67
04-02-10, 01:27 PM
Lent is before Easter, Starts the 17th Of Feb
we all give up something in my house the kids give up cake and sweets
Good luck Linny. :D
Robstoke
04-02-10, 01:28 PM
I sometimes wonder if smoking is as bad for you as the do-gooders would have us believe.
There was the case in the paper of the woman who died at age 115 and had smoked 15 a day every day since here teens.
My two grandma's had smoked all their lives, strong ones for a long time with no tip, and they both died in their mid 80's of totally unsmoking related illnesses.
What really really annoys me is when a very overweight person lectures me about smoking :( I rarely drink and keep slim with a sensible diet and exercise.
I don't think we were put on this earth to be perfect in every way.
I also think it's in your genes whether you smoke or not. My two sisters take after my mum - all 3 hate smoking. I take after my dad who chain smoked - as a child I would lie next to him on the sofa smelling his smoke and thought it was lovely LOL However, my dad did stop smoking when he was about 60, and I've never found out the true reason why, as in whether it was a health warning from a doctor.
My sister gets worse coughs and chest infections than me and she's never smoked.
It's all confusing.
At the end of the day - each to his own.
As for Robbie - surely we should be congratulating him on giving up the booze and drugs rather than focusing on one negative thing. He's looking fantastic at present so smoking can't be harming his heath that much !
It's all relative - some people can chain smoke for decades and nothing happens to them. Others can be passive smokers and contract lung cancer. It depends on a huge number of factors.
Yes Rob should be allowed to do what he wants with his own body and money when it comes to smoking. Not really bothered either way. He is a big boy now, he knows the risks to himself and others around him.
I sometimes wonder if smoking is as bad for you as the do-gooders would have us believe.
There was the case in the paper of the woman who died at age 115 and had smoked 15 a day every day since here teens.
My two grandma's had smoked all their lives, strong ones for a long time with no tip, and they both died in their mid 80's of totally unsmoking related illnesses.
What really really annoys me is when a very overweight person lectures me about smoking :( I rarely drink and keep slim with a sensible diet and exercise.
I don't think we were put on this earth to be perfect in every way.
I also think it's in your genes whether you smoke or not. My two sisters take after my mum - all 3 hate smoking. I take after my dad who chain smoked - as a child I would lie next to him on the sofa smelling his smoke and thought it was lovely LOL However, my dad did stop smoking when he was about 60, and I've never found out the true reason why, as in whether it was a health warning from a doctor.
My sister gets worse coughs and chest infections than me and she's never smoked.
It's all confusing.
At the end of the day - each to his own.
As for Robbie - surely we should be congratulating him on giving up the booze and drugs rather than focusing on one negative thing. He's looking fantastic at present so smoking can't be harming his heath that much !
Thank you thank you
Well said,
I have asthma and know i shouldn't smoke, but my mate has asthma too and she don't smoke and she is worse than me
Like you my grandmothers smoked non tips one died at the age of 77 from leukemia
My other one died at 93 from wait for it....natural causes
And my grandpa smoke a pipe he died at 87 from again natural causes
My parents don't smoke, my father did but stopped when I was born
My sister smokes and is always coughing and has colds
My brother never smoked.
I smoke in one room of the house, and the kids are not allowed in that room, so i don't pollute the whole house with smoke, and touch wood none of them smoke or want to.
I thinks drinking and drug taken is more bad for your health than smoking (sorry but it's true)
And I know of people dieing from lung cancer who never smoked at all.
we are all born with cancer cells and it just takes one little thing to trigger it off, some are lucky
some sadly are not.
Yes the ads and stuff i hear of scare me, but obviously not enough to make me stop, my will power is crap.
I enjoy a ciggie and sometimes I hate them lol
but that is my only vice.
As for Robbie yes as you say [we should be congratulating him on giving up the booze and drugs rather than focusing on one negative thing. He's looking fantastic at present so smoking can't be harming his heath that much]
Its a serious waste of money. :rolleyes: I'd always tell Uncle Derek he could afford to buy me stuff I wanted if he didn't waste his money on stupid fags. How much did he waste on them? :rolleyes: Thousands. :rolleyes: He should have been/be paying my mum more in board rather than leaching off her but she always sticks up for him because he hasn't got loads of money like us. :rolleyes: Leach. She should have left him in Spain where she found him! :mad:
It may be a waste of money, and yes I do think they are too expensive, but at the end of the day my kids have a lovely home to live in, food on the table, clothes on their backs, and presents they want for b'day and xmas, whats left is mine to do as I please with.
Urrrrmmm........
NO!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
lol why am I not surprised ....Again
Good luck Linny. :D
Thanks Jazz :D
going to need it lol
Jazz 67
04-02-10, 01:49 PM
[COLOR="Purple"]I sometimes wonder if smoking is as bad for you as the do-gooders would have us believe.
My sister gets worse coughs and chest infections than me and she's never smoked.
It's all confusing.
Same for me Kazza, non smokers around me all get bad coughs and chest infections. I very rarely get a cough, but when I do it is only after I have had a bad cold. Then all I get is people saying I have a smokers cough. :mad:
I don't drink, and think myself fairly heathly. I can walk up a hill and still be able to breathe. ;) Smoking is my bad vice. And yes I enjoy smoking but feel guilty at the same time.
Lapislazuli
04-02-10, 02:09 PM
@linny and kazza: My Granddad died of cancer of the throat and lung cancer due to smoking (and it was a horrible death).
Look at any statistic and you'll see that smokers have indeed a far higher risk to develop a smoke-related cancer. That you know a few exceptions (everybody knows some ;) ) doesn't refute the statistics. Oh, and have a look at the black lung of a chain smoker, I'm sure, there'll be one somewhere on the internet...
A research of the german Robert-Koch-Institut came to the conclusion that only 10 to 15% of patients with lung cancer were non-smokers. I don't suppose that the data in other countries differ much from that.
Another data: Ca 16% of the male smokers and 9% of female smokers are developing lung cancer (still Germany). Doesn't seem that much, but on average only 70 men and 30 women out of 100 000 are developing lung cancer.
The thing is, as a non-smoker I'm minimizing my risk of cancer. That doesn't mean I'll never develop one. But at least it'll be not a smoke-related one.
Of course people are different and some are more prone to get an illness of some kind. But do you really think it is somehow better to elevate the risk to get an illness artificially, just because others have this risk already anyway? :confused:
I can't stand it when people are playing down the risks of smoking because of a few people they know and who never fell ill with a smoke-related illness. Are you doing that for your own sake, to make yourself feel better about it? :confused: If yes, remember that perhaps children/teenager are reading this and could think "oh, well, then smoking isn't that dangerous at all" and start it.
This said, I won't tell anyone to quit smoking. As you said: Each to their own. You know what and why you're doing it. I have my own vices to fight. But please, please, don't play down the very real risk!
These persons who do not smoke also do not like (hardly tolerate) smoking plus all these medical statistics - there are some reasons to quit smoking.
Official Troll
04-02-10, 02:46 PM
It may be a waste of money, and yes I do think they are too expensive, but at the end of the day my kids have a lovely home to live in, food on the table, clothes on their backs, and presents they want for b'day and xmas, whats left is mine to do as I please with.
Urm, :eek: but what about me? :eek: Your own children may be provided for but why should I miss out? :confused:
@linny and kazza: My Granddad died of cancer of the throat and lung cancer due to smoking (and it was a horrible death).
Look at any statistic and you'll see that smokers have indeed a far higher risk to develop a smoke-related cancer. That you know a few exceptions (everybody knows some ;) ) doesn't refute the statistics. Oh, and have a look at the black lung of a chain smoker, I'm sure, there'll be one somewhere on the internet...
A research of the german Robert-Koch-Institut came to the conclusion that only 10 to 15% of patients with lung cancer were non-smokers. I don't suppose that the data in other countries differ much from that.
Another data: Ca 16% of the male smokers and 9% of female smokers are developing lung cancer (still Germany). Doesn't seem that much, but on average only 70 men and 30 women out of 100 000 are developing lung cancer.
The thing is, as a non-smoker I'm minimizing my risk of cancer. That doesn't mean I'll never develop one. But at least it'll be not a smoke-related one.
Of course people are different and some are more prone to get an illness of some kind. But do you really think it is somehow better to elevate the risk to get an illness artificially, just because others have this risk already anyway? :confused:
I can't stand it when people are playing down the risks of smoking because of a few people they know and who never fell ill with a smoke-related illness. Are you doing that for your own sake, to make yourself feel better about it? :confused: If yes, remember that perhaps children/teenager are reading this and could think "oh, well, then smoking isn't that dangerous at all" and start it.
This said, I won't tell anyone to quit smoking. As you said: Each to their own. You know what and why you're doing it. I have my own vices to fight. But please, please, don't play down the very real risk!
Good God no one is playing down the risks of smoking, we are just stating some other facts too
thats all, (which we are entitled to do).
I'm sorry to hear about your Grandad.
I know the risks, I know people who have died from smoking related illness also. I'm not daft
but with everything you do there is an element of risk
You cross the road you can get hit by a bus etc.
And yes I hate having stuff shoved down my throat about smoking, and people telling me to stop.
and lets be fair here if children do read this and they decide that they will smoke then they don't have the brains they were born with, sorry but thats a fact.
children/teenagers normally start smoking though peer pressure not because they read stuff on a website.
Teenagers take drugs and drink and have underage sex more than taking up smoking
AND ALL carry risks.
Urm, :eek: but what about me? :eek: Your own children may be provided for but why should I miss out? :confused:
Errr because you are not my child :D
cozerocks
04-02-10, 04:52 PM
errr because you are not my child :d
makes sense
My view is that unless someone is 100% perfect in terms of what they eat, how much they drink, how much exercise they get etc. they have no right to lecture somebody else who is less than perfect in their choices.
Smokers are all clubbed together in one big "stupid" category. But to me, smoking is like drinking - there are so many varying degrees of it. If you do it in moderation, choose low tar cigs, and make sure your smoke is not affecting anybody else - is it really so bad in the big grand plan of things?
For a lot of people smoking is a coping mechanism. Better that than turning to drugs or risking liver damage with too much booze. Even comfort eating is as damaging to health if done to excess.
I think we should all be more tolerant and understanding of what other people choose to do :)
Robbie might have the incentive to quit if he has a little baby in the house - or there again he might decide to go outside or to a part of the house a long way from the baby. At the end of the day, it's his choice.
Lapislazuli
04-02-10, 07:14 PM
You know, I wouldn't have written anything weren't it for the "other people are getting cancer as well, so smoking can't be THAT bad"-remark ;) :p. Smokers carry definitely a far higher risk. I don't intend to shove anything down anyone's throat. But if a statement is wrong it's wrong.
I have to correct you: the low-tar-cigarettes have no influence on the probability to develop cancer. The only thing that's reducing the probability is indeed moderation. The more cigarettes so. is smoking the higher the chance to develop cancer. Up to a 20- or 30-fold risk in very heavy smokers in comparison to non-smokers. In my opinion that's a lot...
And I didn't say smokers are "stupid", I know that it's often a coping mechanism like other people are eating chocolate or drinking alcohol or whatever. I have my own coping mechanisms and they aren't THAT good either, I won't deny that :p... But I couldn't weigh cigarettes against alcohol for example. Drugs are worse, I think. It's rather difficult to consume drugs with moderation :p. But alcohol? I'm drinking a glass from time to time and I don't think that's as bad as smoking...
People who don't smoke, or don't feel the need to smoke, are very lucky, but I don't think they should "demonise" or lecture those who do - who undoubtedly know the risks.
However, you'd never find a smoker being violent or causing a car accident like heavy drinkers. Or puffing away (literally,not on a ciggy LOL) having to walk upstairs or something cos' they are carrying far too much weight. As for drugs - well, we don't need to go there.
I agree Robbie seems to smoke a hell of a lot - so many pictures of him show him with a cig in his hand, or at least clutching a packet. But if he didn't smoke - what else would he turn to to calm his nerves?
Society seem to feel they have a right to lecture smokers as if they are the only ones with a problem - it's that that gets my goat. Take the pictures/writing on cig packets - you don't get pictures of eyes affected by diabetes on a box of cakes, or a damaged liver on a bottle of booze.
We can't all be perfect and personally I think life would be a bit boring if we were.
Can I just say how much I've enjoyed this discussion though :)
Lapislazuli
04-02-10, 08:54 PM
However, you'd never find a smoker being violent or causing a car accident like heavy drinkers. Or puffing away (literally,not on a ciggy LOL) having to walk upstairs or something cos' they are carrying far too much weight.
All with moderation - alcohol, chocolate, then it won't hurt... And I'm completely against driving after drinking. I'm never doing it. As for the puffing away because of too much weight - I guess there are smokers as well who have to do that ;) - but probably just really, really heavy ones.
Take the pictures/writing on cig packets - you don't get pictures of eyes affected by diabetes on a box of cakes, or a damaged liver on a bottle of booze.
That'd be an idea, wouldn't it? :D Would probably totally minimize the consommation of alcohol...
Can I just say how much I've enjoyed this discussion though :)
Thanks for that. :)
Leanne-00
04-02-10, 10:54 PM
my 6 year old upped the ante yesterday...they have this bus which travels from school to school..its life education and its about drug education as well as healthy living and its age orientated so my little fella learnt yesterday about smoking and basic bad effects...he asked me to try to stop! what can I do when those beautiful blue eyes are pleading with me..
I rang the quit line and they are sending me a quit pack..I have to make a date in the future to give it away and I opted for them to ring me once a week to see how Im doing and give support if i need it..I can ring them anytime day or night if if Im having trouble..soooooooooo now to make that date, wonder how long into the future they mean..lol..December sounds good.:D
Leanne, think of the money you can save! All of that can then go towards tickets (if and when a tour is announced). That should be incentive enough! If he doesn't tour till next year, you have have saved enough to fly around the country and see him everywhere!
You can do it! ;);)
Leanne-00
04-02-10, 11:03 PM
yes..considering if we get a tour of Oz my plan is to travel to other states to watch him with my buddies..I will use that as my incentive for sure..
I'm ready to give it a whirl...the pack should come Monday so then I really need to get serious about it all...and if people here are asking how Im doing that might be another incentive to keep it real..lol..what if I get angry, If I get angry then the whole house is angry and thats never good...now, the food thing..yeah, I can handle the eating thing, couldn't possibly eat any more than I already do..:D
miss understood
05-02-10, 07:36 AM
my 6 year old upped the ante yesterday...they have this bus which travels from school to school..its life education and its about drug education as well as healthy living and its age orientated so my little fella learnt yesterday about smoking and basic bad effects...he asked me to try to stop! what can I do when those beautiful blue eyes are pleading with me..
I rang the quit line and they are sending me a quit pack..I have to make a date in the future to give it away and I opted for them to ring me once a week to see how Im doing and give support if i need it..I can ring them anytime day or night if if Im having trouble..soooooooooo now to make that date, wonder how long into the future they mean..lol..December sounds good.:D
weldone u,
i wish u goodluck u can do it!!! one day at a time, i found going to a group helped me, they all suported each other and know exactly what ur going through :)
patches are good leanne
im gonna get some soon as ive started smoking again but im gonna chuck it realy soon again. now i know what its like not to smoke, its much better, :)
Official Troll
05-02-10, 10:52 AM
You’d never catch me smoking, drinking, taking drugs or using sun beds. :)
It may be a waste of money, and yes I do think they are too expensive, but at the end of the day my kids have a lovely home to live in, food on the table, clothes on their backs, and presents they want for b'day and xmas, whats left is mine to do as I please with.
Urm, :eek: but what about me? :eek: Your own children may be provided for but why should I miss out? :confused:
Errr because you are not my child :D
makes sense
Not to me it don't. :( I think you need to think more of others and quit being selfish. :mad:
no regrets strong
05-02-10, 05:29 PM
Oh Please his a big boy now
He knows the dangers of smoking like all smokers know
And the more someone tells/asks you to stop the more you do it.
Its the only vice he has left, leave him be and if and when he wants to stop then so be it
his choice .
It is certainly not up to us to tell him what to do, and I'm sure if he read this he would phsl
and say a few naughty words.
Leave the man be, there is enough people out there invading his life without it happening here too
Sorry for replying a little late.Ii think some of u misintepreted my aim was to have people encouraging robbie to smoke not telling him. As if i saw loads of people worried about me smoking as a person i would have thought it would give u a greater motivation to quit.
Jazz 67
05-02-10, 05:31 PM
Sorry for replying a little late.Ii think some of u misintepreted my aim was to have people encouraging robbie to smoke not telling him. As if i saw loads of people worried about me smoking as a person i would have thought it would give u a greater motivation to quit.
never mind, got lots of us talking about giving up ourselves. :D
no regrets strong
05-02-10, 05:37 PM
never mind, got lots of us talking about giving up ourselves. :D
Thats a good thing very happy that it happened i didnt realise so many people on this site smoked.
Jazz 67
05-02-10, 05:40 PM
Thats a good thing very happy that it happened i didnt realise so many people on this site smoked.
Thats because you can't see us doing it. ;):D
no regrets strong
05-02-10, 05:43 PM
Thats because you can't see us doing it. ;):D
I guess it was a bit naive of me to think very few people on here smoked
Jazz 67
09-02-10, 09:58 AM
I've just ordered my quit smoking pack from the NHS. :eek:
And for some reason I can't stop crying. :rolleyes:
Leanne-00
09-02-10, 10:16 AM
and I got my quit pack today...was a great idea at the time:D anyway, they gave me a quit date of 13th March so thats over a month away *stuffs 10 cigarettes into mouth at once* :D
they will ring me before that day to make sure that Im still up for it, the literature has some great tips about how I will notice that I can taste food again..HUH! chocolate taste really good now, could it get any better..so that means if it tastes so wonderful I wil probably eat more of it..lol
anyway, Im giving it a go and will keep myself honest on this thread..soooooooooooo who wants to join me..Jazz?
and I got my quit pack today...was a great idea at the time:D anyway, they gave me a quit date of 13th March so thats over a month away *stuffs 10 cigarettes into mouth at once* :D
they will ring me before that day to make sure that Im still up for it, the literature has some great tips about how I will notice that I can taste food again..HUH! chocolate taste really good now, could it get any better..so that means if it tastes so wonderful I wil probably eat more of it..lol
anyway, Im giving it a go and will keep myself honest on this thread..soooooooooooo who wants to join me..Jazz?
My Start date is the 17th of feb, the starting of Lent lol
would be great if we could keep an update here help each other along the way.
Jaz mate when i tried to give up last year i did cry lol it was like I lost my best friend
Now please tell me how that is normal for crying out loud,
oh I'm sure my best friend would never try to harm me hmmm
*Runs off to phone best mate to check*
Jazz 67
09-02-10, 10:25 AM
and I got my quit pack today...was a great idea at the time:D anyway, they gave me a quit date of 13th March so thats over a month away *stuffs 10 cigarettes into mouth at once* :D
they will ring me before that day to make sure that Im still up for it, the literature has some great tips about how I will notice that I can taste food again..HUH! chocolate taste really good now, could it get any better..so that means if it tastes so wonderful I wil probably eat more of it..lol
anyway, Im giving it a go and will keep myself honest on this thread..soooooooooooo who wants to join me..Jazz?
13th March eh? Ok. Although I was kind of hoping to stop before that.
But I will post on here the day I stop. I'm going to try and cut down to about 5 a day first just to prepare for it.
I did a 'how high is your addiction' test and I'm 'high' :eek:
I hope some more may join us, would be good to support each other.
Leanne-00
09-02-10, 11:05 AM
they gave me the 13th march but its my choice when I start..I just have to let them know so they can harass me and be the little man on my shoulder:D
we could all start together..I feel inspired to think that I am even seriously going to give it a go..been doing it for so long now..It's the phone calls...I always do it then. will just have to ban phonecalls till I into it..lol
Jazz 67
09-02-10, 11:25 AM
Fine by me Leanne. Only I would'nt be able to do it on the 17th Feb, the kids are on half term that week. And we have to have a stress free day to start. :eek::eek:
Linny, did you realise the kids are off that week?
Fine by me Leanne. Only I would'nt be able to do it on the 17th Feb, the kids are on half term that week. And we have to have a stress free day to start. :eek::eek:
Linny, did you realise the kids are off that week?
Yeah Jazz I did lol
the idea being that if i can go with out a ciggie while there home then I can do it no problems
So there is a method to my madness....well somewhere.
Jazz 67
17-02-10, 08:13 AM
Linny.................... Good Luck xxx
Kind of an angel
17-02-10, 08:17 AM
Good luck Linny, you can do it!!!! :)
I'll quit when and if Rob quit:p
Leanne-00
18-02-10, 11:15 PM
I have less than a month left..wooooooo I think my head is in the right place about it, I have been aware of my habit lately, to the point of cutting down slowly in preparation..Im kinda looking forward to it now...kinda, sorta..lol
I have less than a month left..wooooooo I think my head is in the right place about it, I have been aware of my habit lately, to the point of cutting down slowly in preparation..Im kinda looking forward to it now...kinda, sorta..lol
I can see you behind a tree having a ***:D :p
Leanne-00
18-02-10, 11:29 PM
:D
I wish we could use our own gifs, I have the perfect one of a smiley getting busted smoking..
:D
I wish we could use our own gifs, I have the perfect one of a smiley getting busted smoking..
:confused: what's gifs?:confused::o
Leanne-00
19-02-10, 12:17 AM
sorry, they are smileys...those cute little yellow things which I looooooooove so much...
Thanks Leanne
BTW this forum's smileys are so uglyyyyyyyyyyyy:eek:
ayda has made so many good things about robbie and now she tries to make one more
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2873891/Ayda-gives-Rob-smoke-signals.html
I think it is very good that Rob only smokes only 10 cigarettes the day. I´am very proud.
Yesterday there was an article in the paper about this 'she has also put Robbie on a strict fitness drive ahead of the wedding'
also said you can see who's the boss in this relationship
I call it 'under the thumb or hen pecked'
RUN ROBBIE RUN
RUN ROBBIE RUN
Yeah - set you hooves on fire! :D:D:D
SCNR! :D
Jazz 67
02-03-10, 01:45 PM
Yesterday there was an article in the paper about this 'she has also put Robbie on a strict fitness drive ahead of the wedding'
also said you can see who's the boss in this relationship
I call it 'under the thumb or hen pecked'
RUN ROBBIE RUN
The difference is, he's probably letting her. He's in love. My hubby used to let me hen peck him, but after 20 years it doesn't work anymore. :rolleyes: :p:p
Lullepups
02-03-10, 02:17 PM
Yeah - set you hooves on fire! :D:D:D
SCNR! :D
be careful...coyotes will be shot on sight :D
...and bunnies will be boiled :p
berardi
02-03-10, 02:38 PM
I just assumed from the stories that he was trying to get fit enough to play in the match for Socceraid. The rest I took with a big pinch of salt.
Although it's a relief to know that the tobacco won't be destroying his sperm now. I'll be able to sleep easy tonight .......... :rolleyes:
I just assumed from the stories that he was trying to get fit enough to play in the match for Socceraid. The rest I took with a big pinch of salt.
Although it's a relief to know that the tobacco won't be destroying his sperm now. I'll be able to sleep easy tonight .......... :rolleyes:
It would be brilliant if he wanted to stop smoking of his own volition, but Ayda fell in love with a man who smokes, and should be careful about trying to change him - it could back fire in years to come.
The thought of Robbie getting through a tour without his "crutch" is difficult to comprehend.
Personally I think Ayda should be pleased and grateful he's beaten his drugs and booze demons and not push him too hard, given his addictive personality.
I know loads of blokes who smoke who've got a few kids. I'm not advocating smoking but the nanny state is going too far.
berardi
02-03-10, 03:21 PM
*waves to Kazza*
You know, I actually hesitated before I put in that rolling eyes smiley because I knew it would be like a red rag to a bull :D I bet you were enjoying a quiet cup of coffee and then sensed that I had used it! LOL. I'll cross it off my smiley list now. Promise :)
I agree that someone trying to change someone else would be a problem in the long term. I'm just not sure that Gordon Smart is privvy to any of that sort of information in the first place. Although maybe he is. In which case can I get Ayda sent round to my house pronto please. I've got one man, three boys and a dog that could do with some "training" !!
Chrissie
02-03-10, 03:27 PM
I find it hilarious how people adapt their opinions of the tabloids depending on whether the stories suit their personal opinions :D
I don't for one moment suppose that she has put her foot down and demanded that he stop smoking - I would like to credit him with enough sense to know that if they are trying for a family, things like cutting down on smoking make sense. Who knows, he might have 'ordered' her to take folic acid!
Seeing the word 'sperm' in The Sun did make me squrim in my chair though! LOL!
berardi
02-03-10, 03:31 PM
*in voice of woman from Marks & Spencer advert*
It wasn't just ordinary sperm. It was Robbie's sperm ...........
*points and laughs at Chrissie falling off chair*
Chrissie
02-03-10, 03:33 PM
*in voice of woman from Marks & Spencer advert*
It wasn't just ordinary sperm. It was Robbie's sperm ...........
*points and laughs at Chrissie falling off chair*
*puts fingers in ears and yells I AM NOT LISTENING, I AM NOT LISTENING!!!*
It's such an awful word, isn't it? :eek:
berardi
02-03-10, 03:51 PM
S P E R M
Yup it must be fairly bad. The minister next door to me just had a heart attack when I shouted that out the window ;)
S P E R M
Yup it must be fairly bad. The minister next door to me just had a heart attack when I shouted that out the window ;)
Sushhhhhh ladies
you will upset a very large and wonderful animal
who don't know what his name means
The spermwhale.
Jazz 67
02-03-10, 04:50 PM
:o the conversation in here!! :o:o and Robbies too :o
:p
kittykatuk1984
02-03-10, 05:00 PM
Ok did not expect the thread to turn into a sperm count issue LMAO
It is true tho, the less smoking you do the highest it is. Get those swimmers in check LMAO
I cant wait to see what there baby looks like and i wish i could cut down to 10 a day :D
I think he looks like a girlish daddy. :D I think they'll have a daughter.... or twins! :D one girl, one boy. He can teach to his son how to play football, and to his daughter how to kick some wooer's ass :D hehehee :cool:
be careful...coyotes will be shot on sight :D
Awww, he doesn't have to shoot me. I won't attack his dogs.
girls relax.i did not made this topic to turn it to a -sperm- conversation.i think that now his voice would be softer as it was in 2004,2005.and also he would be not in danger for cancer.that means longer living and better appearance.dont worry :a 36 year old man surely can make children.he would have problem if he was older.
Cutting down on smoking, if you can't stop, is sensible at any time, but particularly when wanting to start a family - and even more so when babies come along. At least Robbie has the option of going outside for a smoke without getting frozen or drenched as is the norm in the UK.
However, in this particular article "Robbie said" (:rolleyes:) he wants to give up altogether. Robbie with no vices? On the other side of the coin that would be like the pope doing crack.
I take all these articles with a pinch of salt, or should that be snuff....... When a law is brought in that "sources" have to be named our newspapers will be half empty. And celebs won't be left tearing their hair out at all the rubbish which is written about them.
Robbie and Ayda seem to make a good team - I'm sure they encourage each other to make the best of themselves, and they want to be the best they can for each other. However, human beings are by nature imperfect - to strive for perfection in terms of weight, diet, alcohol consumption, cigarettes, exercise taken etc etc blah blah blab is unrealistic.
*waves to Kazza*
You know, I actually hesitated before I put in that rolling eyes smiley because I knew it would be like a red rag to a bull :D I bet you were enjoying a quiet cup of coffee and then sensed that I had used it! LOL. I'll cross it off my smiley list now. Promise :)
I agree that someone trying to change someone else would be a problem in the long term. I'm just not sure that Gordon Smart is privvy to any of that sort of information in the first place. Although maybe he is. In which case can I get Ayda sent round to my house pronto please. I've got one man, three boys and a dog that could do with some "training" !!
*waves right back* :)
Correction - I was enjoying a quiet cup of coffee (as opposed to a loud one?) and a cig - hee hee hee
How can anybody take that rolling eyes smilie seriously anyways - the daft smile hardly evokes cynicism or sarcasm...........
berardi
02-03-10, 07:06 PM
However, in this particular article "Robbie said" (:rolleyes:) he wants to give up altogether. Robbie with no vices? On the other side of the coin that would be like the pope doing crack.
Well, he did say that he wanted to live to see the Pope get high :p
(look at that - a whole post and a quote and the only rolling eyes smiley was your one) :D
Laura130262
02-03-10, 07:25 PM
*in voice of woman from Marks & Spencer advert*
It wasn't just ordinary sperm. It was Robbie's sperm ...........
:D:D:D
If he cuts down the ciggies he might be able to make that top note when he next sings Everything Changes. ;)
Well, he did say that he wanted to live to see the Pope get high :p
(look at that - a whole post and a quote and the only rolling eyes smiley was your one) :D
I really must try harder not to flavour my posts with the predictable sarcasm..............
;)
(loved the lyrics reference btw - Very Clevererrrr! :D)
:D:D:D
If he cuts down the ciggies he might be able to make that top note when he next sings Everything Changes. ;)
That made me wonder - does anybody think Robbie's voice has deteriorated over the years - either through age, or a combination of age and smoking?
I have to say I think his voice on Morning Sun is absolutely beautiful, but there are a few times over the whole album, especially the chorus of Won't Do That, where I cringe a tiny bit.
As far as I know he's never had any professional voice training, and when you think how much hammer his vocal chords have had over the years it's surprising his voice is still as strong as it is.
Aww... I'm an inappropriate poster again. :D:D:D
So sorry I am still so outspoken. So let's all talk about Rob's sperm here... as this is apparently not as inappropriate as talking about his dogs... all the very very diffent ones he feeds. :D
I like dogs btw... my auntie has a beautiful one. But it's a she... so no sperm here... :p
micaela
02-03-10, 08:02 PM
I think he looks like a girlish daddy. :D I think they'll have a daughter.... or twins! :D one girl, one boy. He can teach to his son how to play football, and to his daughter how to kick some wooer's ass :D hehehee :cool:
he's getting in shape physically, summer is approaching:cool:
I too, imagine robbie, father of a girl:D and began practicing with his weapon to ward off suitors this beautiful girl:mad:
surely they are considering having children soon, and that is why, robbie wants to quit smoking or that smoking less;)
they were married before having children, Robbie will be a great father, very funny and loving with their children.
smoking does not affect the sperm, if drugs
Laura130262
02-03-10, 08:07 PM
That made me wonder - does anybody think Robbie's voice has deteriorated over the years - either through age, or a combination of age and smoking?
Hard to say.
The cigs can't do his voice any good though can they.
Lullepups
02-03-10, 08:09 PM
Aww... I'm an inappropriate poster again. :D:D:D
So sorry I am still so outspoken. So let's all talk about Rob's sperm here... as this is apparently not as inappropriate as talking about his dogs... all the very very diffent ones he feeds. :D
I like dogs btw... my auntie has a beautiful one. But it's a she... so no sperm here... :p
I`ve got a déjà vus :rolleyes:
i started smoking at the age of 19
when i decided to get pregnant aged 30,
it worked like a quick hop :D
...and my ex is smoking too
lamponefran
02-03-10, 08:12 PM
Hard to say.
The cigs can't do his voice any good though can they.
Even Bono (U2) say that the cigs change his voice
Even Bono (U2) say that the cigs change his voice
Everyone is different, it affects some and don't affect others, my voice hasn't changed
still sound like i should be in the eastend on a market stall. lol
Yesterday there was an article in the paper about this 'she has also put Robbie on a strict fitness drive ahead of the wedding'
also said you can see who's the boss in this relationship
I call it 'under the thumb or hen pecked'
RUN ROBBIE RUN
u make me laughin lol :D oh my god :confused:
Leanne-00
15-03-10, 07:20 AM
not anymore ela..http://www.livepencil.com/mambers/imagesmem/youremail/emotic/april_fools_1/jocker_smile.gif
WELL...I did it, I gave them away on sunday...so far its been only 1 day and all seems to be well, no mood changes:D lucky for the boys eh...
miss understood
15-03-10, 07:45 AM
:Doh good leanne, i wish u all the best, u can do it!!!:D
Jazz 67
15-03-10, 08:09 AM
http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww173/prestonjjrtr/Smileys/bravo_2.gif Well done Leanne. http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww173/prestonjjrtr/Smileys/bravosmiley.gif
Official Troll
15-03-10, 12:34 PM
I'd better be on my best behaviour so as to not raise your stress levels then hey Old Lady?! http://emoticons4u.com/angels/teu20.gif
Leanne-00
15-03-10, 08:26 PM
well, that would be nice..you don't want to be at the receiving end of an erratic decision I make in the throes of withdrawal..:D
day 2..could be interesting, dreamt of fags last night..lol
berardi
15-03-10, 08:34 PM
:D
When you wake up and find that you've been trying to smoke the cat's tail, you'll know that you're really in trouble :D
Fingers crossed for you though :) On the basis that it's impossible to smoke when your fingers are crossed ....
Leanne-00
15-03-10, 11:01 PM
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/loonatic88/smileyfingerscrossed.gif
I just love having more gifs on here now...woohoo
You still holding out Leanne????
Leanne-00
15-03-10, 11:37 PM
sorry, whats that...couldn't read ya cause of the piles of food in front of me...:D if I eat, everything seems okay...lol
You still holding out Leanne????
Leanne can't hear you Tina... she's behind a tree having a ciggie :D
The sound of the crisps being consumed in vast quantities .... that is the noise!!!
You can do it Leanne!! Yeah!!!!
ela, this might be a good time for you to stop as well!!!! (covers head for protection from flying objects!)
I'm having the last one... for tonight:o
Leanne how are you doing????
I'll keep my firgers crossed for you...
Official Troll
17-03-10, 11:14 AM
Which is easier? Giving up fags or dieting? http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/konfus/a015.gif
Leanne-00
17-03-10, 08:00 PM
Im still doing ok...I did cut down a lot the last month and nobody around me smokes so thats probably making it a little easier, I did walk past someone having a *** yesterday and it caught my attention, was busy so couldn't stay around and bludge one off them:D
so far so good!
Dieting is something I can't do...me and chocolate, we are best buddies..:D
Leanne-00
17-03-10, 08:01 PM
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/loonatic88/smileyconfused-8.gifso you can say fags but not f.ag...go figure
You should be very proud of yourself Leanne ... you are doing remarkably well!!!! On ya!!!
Jazz 67
17-03-10, 08:04 PM
Well done Leanne, bloody brilliant in fact. :D
tbh its stressing me no end. I get quite down actually everytime I think about not smoking.
So you think cutting right back helped you? how many did you go down to before you stopped. I've managed to cut down to 8 but only on a good day.:eek:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/loonatic88/smileyconfused-8.gifso you can say fags but not f.ag...go figure
It is OK is there are multiple ones, you just cant have a single one!!! :p:p:p
Leanne I raise a toast to you...
xx
Official Troll
19-03-10, 11:51 AM
Yeah Leanne, you're doing great. http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/frech/c030.gif
I'm really worry about Robbie! I don't like his bad habit(smoking) He's wery IMPORTANT FOR ME. And i know YOU love him like me. We don't wanna loose him! That's right.
I wanna know your things about Robbie's bad habit (smoking) it's so annoying cos i can't help him just one.
Robstoke
17-10-10, 03:47 PM
If and when he wants to stop smoking he will in his own time. Leave him alone!
I leave him alone. . But i'm worry about his health.
LilMiss
17-10-10, 04:33 PM
And through it all it's his decision. But I think his personal trainer and especially Ayda say that EVERYday.So we can stop getting on his nervs bout that(if he would ever read this) and let him be.
Lullepups
17-10-10, 04:41 PM
And through it all it's his decision. But I think his personal trainer and especially Ayda say that EVERYday.So we can stop getting on his nervs bout that(if he would ever read this) and let him be.
Amen.
:D
cozerocks
17-10-10, 04:46 PM
Trouble is he does seem to enjoy it rather a lot, still we all have our vices don't we
LilMiss
17-10-10, 05:05 PM
Amen.
:D
Lol
The statistics say that smoking is dangerous for health but from the other hand there are smoking people that are 90 years old. It makes me think that somehow Robbie will survive with or without smoking (though I don't like smoking anyway).
meandmymonkey
23-10-10, 09:54 PM
Rob will be in my heart for the rest of my life...........;)
meganjo
04-02-11, 08:12 AM
Find another smoker who is trying to quit, and help each other with positive words and by lending an ear when quitting
Thumpelina
04-07-11, 05:34 PM
I`ve quit smoking!!!!!