View Full Version : Why did you return to RW.com?
GurunessBrownie
08-02-10, 01:36 PM
I wanted to ask some things, that have been bugging me…
I have noticed, that some of those users, who I always have perceived as frequent posters in the beginnings of this forum, had backed off it for a while, to now fortunately be back on here.
That has raised the question for me, what it was, that made these users coming back on here, to post, participate, contribute & discuss again?
And do you feel, that such discussions can be lead on here in a mature, open and free way?
Or how far do you feel, that a discussion/debate should go before moderation?
Do you sometimes have an opinion on something, but don't want to get involved, as you for example would be apprehensive to discuss issues on this forum for some reason?
Which changes did you notice on your "return", if you noticed some at all?
Were some of the reasons, that let you once leave the forum, rectified?
Had your temporary pull-out to do with the erstwhile collection of other users, with who you felt not comfortable to post, discuss & deal with?
If so, did that meanwhile change for you?
I'm curious for your views on this...
:)
Official Troll
08-02-10, 01:46 PM
Which users are you talking about? :confused: Who? :confused:
GurunessBrownie
08-02-10, 01:56 PM
Which users are you talking about? :confused: Who? :confused:
To no-one in particular, Sue. :)
But I hoped that those, who feel adressed/as a part of the mentioned group of users, might contribute with a reply to my rosen questions :)
But maybe some of them even didn't notice, that they have been away and missed :D
- That has raised the question for me, what it was, that made these users coming back on here, to post, participate, contribute & discuss again?
A good friend of mine told me that the atmosphere here was more relaxed than months ago, when I decided to leave
Another good friend of mine is not posting anymore in other forums and, even though we are in touch by other ways almost daily, I missed to read her posts
Reading in some forums bad comments about this site made me come back here and prove myself that, again, I can't agree with them
- And do you feel, that such discussions can be lead on here in a mature, open and free way?
There are exceptions and there are members still finding it hard to accept other's opinions, but in general, yes. It's not a question of disagree, it's not what they say but the way they say it.
Or how far do you feel, that a discussion/debate should go before moderation?
It's up to each poster. The red flag it's a good thing.
Do you sometimes have an opinion on something, but don't want to get involved, as you for example would be apprehensive to discuss issues on this forum for some reason?
It depends on the day, my mood, how heated is the thread, who is posting in that thread...
Which changes did you notice on your "return", if you noticed some at all?
My friend was right
Were some of the reasons, that let you once leave the forum, rectified?
Yes
Had your temporary pull-out to do with the erstwhile collection of other users, with who you felt not comfortable to post, discuss & deal with?
Yes
If so, did that meanwhile change for you?
Mainly yes
Have I fed your curiosity? :D
Leanne-00
09-02-10, 06:55 AM
nice to see you back Nuria..:)
your friend was nice to say that the atmosphere had changed, I believe that now we are finding ourselves building a community, its taken a little time and it was a bumpy start.
Your point about the red flag is a good one..the mods can act on red flags, much better than saying nothing..the red flag system is anonymous to all but the mods and admin and we would encourage posters to use it if they feel uncomfortable with something.
seeyou around the boards..
nice to see you back Nuria..:)
your friend was nice to say that the atmosphere had changed, I believe that now we are finding ourselves building a community, its taken a little time and it was a bumpy start.
Your point about the red flag is a good one..the mods can act on red flags, much better than saying nothing..the red flag system is anonymous to all but the mods and admin and we would encourage posters to use it if they feel uncomfortable with something.
seeyou around the boards..
Thanks :D
But it's all been a logical process. We all subscribed here the first week and we all were excited about it. After some months, a natural (and sometimes forced) clean up it's been done and I guess the ones that stay here is because they want to have fun and be part of this community. There are some members that still come just to try to find a reason to critisise this place, but it's up to them if they want to be bitter and not enjoy their on-line life
Leanne-00
09-02-10, 07:07 AM
either way , its nice here and I am enjoying myself so much more than even a few months ago..and I agree about our on line fun being what we make it..
GurunessBrownie
09-02-10, 12:17 PM
That has raised the question for me, what it was, that made these users coming back on here, to post, participate, contribute & discuss again?
A good friend of mine told me that the atmosphere here was more relaxed than months ago, when I decided to leave
Another good friend of mine is not posting anymore in other forums and, even though we are in touch by other ways almost daily, I missed to read her posts
Reading in some forums bad comments about this site made me come back here and prove myself that, again, I can't agree with them
Sometimes such comments are based on older conditions of times, when such comments might have been justified. But I think, that things have changed in the meantime and I personally think, that people can find out best, if things have changed to their personal liking, if they involve themselves again into goings on. As you did - which is so much appreciated! :)
And do you feel, that such discussions can be lead on here in a mature, open and free way?
There are exceptions and there are members still finding it hard to accept other's opinions, but in general, yes. It's not a question of disagree, it's not what they say but the way they say it.
As I see it, some people often tend to generally perceive a disagreement as a sort of challenge on either side. They hence might slip into a belligerent reaction to passionately vindicate their point of view. On a forum community as this one, with so many different linguistical backgrounds, such attitudes might indeed put people off -as you said: rather because of the way things are said & discussed, than just for the points of view themselves.
I'm though happy to see, that you deem an open, free and mature discussion possible on here :)
Or how far do you feel, that a discussion/debate should go before moderation?
It's up to each poster. The red flag it's a good thing.
Yes, red flags allow us mods to react on something, and this not necessarily in form of a direct intervention in a thread in question (to not disturb a discussion flow), but behind the scenes, ie by pm's or so.
That's why it's surely a good thing, to make to make use of it, as soon as deemed adequate.
The red flag alert must not be seen as a plain reporting tool, but maybe more as a tool of help, that won't bite anyone :D
Do you sometimes have an opinion on something, but don't want to get involved, as you for example would be apprehensive to discuss issues on this forum for some reason?
It depends on the day, my mood, how heated is the thread, who is posting in that thread...
Haha, ya, I know that from myself... :D
Which changes did you notice on your "return", if you noticed some at all?
My friend was right
With the statement that forums are now more relaxed? If yes, then that's great to hear - relaxed is good! :)
Were some of the reasons, that let you once leave the forum, rectified?
Yes
Well, I just can say, that I hope, that we can continue to rectify more of the reasons of people's leaves in future. With "we" I mean us mods, but also every poster.
That's why your open answers are so much appreciated! Thanks!! :)
Had your temporary pull-out to do with the erstwhile collection of other users, with who you felt not comfortable to post, discuss & deal with?
Yes
:eek:
If so, did that meanwhile change for you?
Mainly yes
You are here now, so it must have improved :D
Have I fed your curiosity? :D
Yesss! :D
berardi
09-02-10, 12:25 PM
Scrub the week out.
Brownie, how did you do the text here? It's lovely :) :) :)
Laura130262
09-02-10, 01:03 PM
If I'm honest, I've started to post here more because my perception was that there weren't many UK posters on here at the start and I wanted to help redress the balance a bit. :)
lolawhite
11-02-10, 01:33 PM
hey, GurunessBrownie those colours are wicked..love it.
I like the blue too
Hi I am back too....looking at the posts as to the 'changes' in here....well...it's changed a lot! All for the better I hope? ;)
Official Troll
11-02-10, 01:57 PM
Hey Lola, nice to see you again on here. :)
Savvy_Designs
11-02-10, 05:17 PM
i returned because the website is looking brilliant!
good job by all admin and moderators!:D
lolawhite
11-02-10, 10:00 PM
Hey Lola, nice to see you again on here. :)
Hi Sue, nice to c u again too....I am suprised that so many have left? I had no idea? But, if they are coming back....can't be bad...myself included ;)
lolawhite
11-02-10, 10:31 PM
Just wondering if threads still get locked until you ask to go in them....anyone know if this still happens?? Don't want to write unless I am doing it right....;)
Leanne-00
11-02-10, 10:47 PM
no threads will be locked, however...Predictions for RW will not be allowed on this forum, other than that Lola, as long posts are within the guidelines all is well, feel free to post:)
I try, I really do, but I find it hard to stay here. Less poeple doing it, but enough to be on the verge to leave this place again.
It seems only certain persons are clever, know the truth and the rest of us are simply poor ignorant and silly posters. I think it's not so difficult to reply without bullying the others.
Chrissie
15-02-10, 08:26 PM
I try, I really do, but I find it hard to stay here. Less poeple doing it, but enough to be on the verge to leave this place again.
It seems only certain persons are clever, know the truth and the rest of us are simply poor ignorant and silly posters. I think it's not so difficult to reply without bullying the others.
I have to say that I agree - although I suppose the way to dilute the situation would be to post more, but more often than not I find myself thinking what's the point when my personal opinions are not only shouted down but put firmly in their place.
There are ways and means of saying things without inferring that one view is superior to everybody elses.
So it's quite lucky really that at the moment these colours are keeping me well away anyway!
The red flag system is set up to immediately bring to the attention of the Moderator's any issue that a member may have with a post. This can be because it is spam, because of derogatory comments or in fact any concern a member may have with a specific post. If anyone has concerns regarding bullying or any other issues with fellow members, please, do not hesitate in PM'ing any Angel (Mod) on duty or anyone that you feel comfortable with and we will try and sort out an concerns that you may have.
We want this place to be friendly and somewhere that everyone can voice their opinions equally.
Let's see if I know how to explain it...
They are not rude, they don't insult on posts, but they always make you feel like you know nothing and what you think/say is no a valid point or opinion. They even correct English grammar mistakes to non native members, sometimes implying that the others should go back to school.
All this has only happened to me once since I'm back, but I've read lots of posts like these on forum. And I thought I was the only one having this feeling, being unconfortable reading it (in reply to my posts or not, it doesn't matter) but the last days I've known about some other friends feeling the same.
And another thing that annoys me is that IMO some members reject and seem to be annoyed by the presence and posts of non British/non anglosaxon people here. Again, it's not directly said, but the way they reply to those members says it all to me... "You were not here when TT were 5, you can't get his lyrics, you can't understand his sense of humour"... I didn't know when I joined that this forum was only for UK natives.
Red flag all these? I could do it, but as I said, it's just a sensation I (and some others) have. So from now on, I'll be a reader until the moment that I won't bother to log in again. And I'll red flag posts if necessary.
I hope that you do continue to post here. Everyone has an equal say, some may say it slightly more often than others, or are more vocal, but, everyone should feel comfortable enough to have an opinion. Not all of us will agree, as long as the discussion doesn't become personal or derogatory, then we try not to step in.
Your views are as important as any other member.
As far as comprehension is concerned. I don't have a problem at all with understanding your posts and I don't think anyone does. You have a fantastic command of the English language and I think it is extremely impressive how may bilingual fans there are. I don't speak another language and I am poorer for it.
So, please do not feel intimidated to post and again, if you have a problem at all, don't hesitate in PM'ing one of us.
berardi
16-02-10, 10:46 AM
I can see where Nuria's coming from actually.
I had a conversation the other day with a friend that basically went like:-
- What did you think of .....? I thought it was amazing! :)
- I didn't like it. I thought it was rubbish! :(
- How could you not like it??? This bit was great!! :)
- I didn't like it because of this ........ :(
- Crap fan!!!! :D
- A.ss licker!!!!! :D
It ended with us both laughing because underneath it all we know that neither of us is a "truer" fan than the other. We both just like different things about him, which is as it should be because we are different people. In recognising each other's differences, we get a better awareness of what makes us similar.
If at any point in the conversation any of the answers was met by "no, actually you are wrong because of a, b, c and d" then the conversation would have taken a totally different direction. The focus would then have been on our differences. One of us would have been more wary of conversation the next time. The feeling of solidarity and community would be gone.
It's always possible to "win" a discussion. In the bigger picture however, it doesn't always count as a win.
I don't want to win a discussion, I just want to have it. And I don't want to feel that certain persons think they always win.
Has it any sense? :o
Chrissie
16-02-10, 11:03 AM
I can see where Nuria's coming from actually.
It's always possible to "win" a discussion. In the bigger picture however, it doesn't always count as a win.
I'm with Nuria too
There's a saying about the difference between always having to have the last word and being right, but I couldn't find it - while I was looking for it though I found this quote by Ambrose Bierce but I'll get the disclaimer in first; I'm not calling anybody on here an idiot! The quote just fits what I sometimes think about some discussions on here
"“IDIOT, n. A member of a large and powerful tribe whose influence in human affairs has always been dominant and controlling. The Idiot's activity is not confined to any special field of thought or action, but "pervades and regulates the whole." He has the last word in everything; his decision is unappealable. He sets the fashions and opinion of taste, dictates the limitations of speech and circumscribes conduct with a dead-line.”
Chrissie
16-02-10, 11:03 AM
I don't want to win a discussion, I just want to have it. And I don't want to feel that certain persons think they always win.
Has it any sense? :o
Yes :)
berardi
16-02-10, 11:11 AM
I don't want to win a discussion, I just want to have it. And I don't want to feel that certain persons think they always win.
Has it any sense? :o
Yes :) It makes total sense :)
Now that this place it's called Forum instead of Community...
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Official Troll
14-05-10, 10:29 AM
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Can you post that off to me please? http://emoticons4u.com/crazy/241.gif