Want to talk about philosophy?

[Thumpelina]

Anyone who want to talk about philosophy?

What`s your fave quote? Hope to hear it:)

Mine`s def "I think, therefore I am"

:)

[mooingjune moonbeam]

I like the topic, am in :D

My fav quote is "Action speak louder than words" not really a philosophic quote but so much truth in it

[Red-Green]

Hi,
I like the phrase;
what you give is what you get
am not sure that is quite philosophical but it's surely true in life
i believe in the laws of karma and the universal laws of cause and effect and suchlike
positive thinking and visualisation works
what you think is what you get - if it's right for you
not saying that I'm good at positive thinking though.
xx:)

[pikkujoulut]

Hmmm... a philosophical thought: Robbie Williams is the only person in the world who can't attend to a Robbie Williams concert-yet he's the only person who's been present at every single one.

Okay, that's probably not too philosophical...

[robsessed]

Hmmm... a philosophical thought: Robbie Williams is the only person in the world who can't attend to a Robbie Williams concert-yet he's the only person who's been present at every single one.

Okay, that's probably not too philosophical...

I don't know if it is philosophical but it is good :)

And the thread seems to be interesting... hope you'll post here many intresting quotes... I don't know any in english :/
:)

[mooingjune moonbeam]

What do you see when you see nothing?

[Tink]

I quite like philosophy, so I'll add this tpoic to my faves.
Will have to think about a favourite quote, there are so many!

[Natja]

My favourite quote is:
When God made men she was only joking.

[robsessed]

When God made men she was only joking.
haha this one is great

[Tink]

My favourite quote is:
When God made men she was only joking.

Great one, Natja! I know it with Goddess instead of God, but that's about the same. :)

[Natja]

Great one, Natja! I know it with Goddess instead of God, but that's about the same. :)

:-)
I've nothing against men, they only drive me crazy from time to time. grrr

[Natja]

Oooo I have another one, I almost forgot it. It was one of my favourites when I was young and angry.
It's from Amnesty International.

Why do we kill people
who kill people
to show that
killing people is wrong

[Tinkerbell]

Oooo I have another one, I almost forgot it. It was one of my favourites when I was young and angry.
It's from Amnesty International.

Why do we kill people
who kill people
to show that
killing people is wrong

That's a good one.
At the time the Iraq war had started I was discussing it in a newsgroup. And at the time my favourite quote came from Sir Peter Ustinov:
Terrorism is the war of the poor and war is the terrorism of the rich.

I think my favourite one is:
Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.

[Red-Green]

Seriously good q! :)
Maybe you can`t see things as you choose not to see them, and therefore see nothing?
Sometimes it`s easier to simplify things

Like the dad who gave the following explenation to his son, when the son asked what a Tupperware party was. "It`s a bunch of ladies sitting and selling plasticbowls to each other"
The boy starts laughing; "Come on! What is it really?" :D

Glad he didn't ask what an Ann Summer's party was :eek: (sorry but someone had to say it - I'll try to think of something a bit more philosophical)

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder....?
x

[Natja]

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h95/_N_a_t_/thstalking_m.jpg




lol

[Natja]

Does anyone know what the precise question is about the tree in a forrest that falls but no one witnesses it. Does it fall or not.
I've had a great discussion once about this, but I was drunk so I don't remember the clue.

[pikkujoulut]

Do you mean "if a tree falls in the woods and no one's around to hear it, does it still make a sound?"

Also, if a man speaks and there are no women around, does it mean the man is still wrong?

I remember this interview with Chris Heath in '94 where Robbie asked if "Red and green are seldom seen -except on a fool" constitutes as a metaphore. It didn't. :D

[U.S.ROBBIEFAN]

Does anybody really know what time it is?
Does anybody really care?
If so I can't imagine why,
We all have time enough to die.

Not really a philosophy I live by. I just love the song.:D

[pansypotter]

when i loved my self enough my heart became so tender ,it could welcome joy and sorrow equally . k. mcmillen :):):)

[Natja]

Do you mean "if a tree falls in the woods and no one's around to hear it, does it still make a sound?"

Also, if a man speaks and there are no women around, does it mean the man is still wrong?

I remember this interview with Chris Heath in '94 where Robbie asked if "Red and green are seldom seen -except on a fool" constitutes as a metaphore. It didn't. :D



Yes, that's 'm! Thanks :) So.... Does it?

[Tinkerbell]

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h95/_N_a_t_/thstalking_m.jpg




lol
This reminds me of:

I've been hanging around
Just in case you fall in love with me
(R. Williams: Stalker's Day Off)

Does anyone know what the precise question is about the tree in a forrest that falls but no one witnesses it. Does it fall or not.
I've had a great discussion once about this, but I was drunk so I don't remember the clue.
I think the answer to that is rather physics than philosophic:
It does fall and it does make a sound.
It would even fall and make a sound if no humans were on earth who could ever see or hear it. ;)
There's probably dozens of trees falling this very moment without us knowing.

[Brigitte]

This is my simple religion. There is no need for temples; no need for complicated philosophy. Our own brain, our own heart is our temple; the philosophy is kindness.

Dalai Lama:


Think Less, Feel More

[Natja]

This reminds me of:

(R. Williams: Stalker's Day Off)


I think the answer to that is rather physics than philosophic:
It does fall and it does make a sound.
It would even fall and make a sound if no humans were on earth who could ever see or hear it. ;)
There's probably dozens of trees falling this very moment without us knowing.

Yes, that was my answer as well, but I had the discussion with a student philosophy, and he had a different view. The opposite. That's why i ased. Because it made sense in my drunk brain, that I remember.

[Red-Green]

are you calling me a fool...?
maybe you're not
maybe i am :(

but just to prove i'm not:rolleyes: lol
a metaphor is a saying which uses the word "like" .or "as"....your eyes are like pools of deep water where i can dive in and drown
or your lips are as sweet as wine

a quote like Red and green are seen only on a fool , would be an adage not a metaphor:)
x
here's one
The beggar was well known for being a fool
when a man offered him the choice of two coins, he'd take the small one
all the people of the town were amazed by his foolishness
and came to offer him coins and he always, still took the smaller one
one day
the wiseman came to ask the beggar
why do you suffer being called a fool, why do you not take the larger coin?
the beggar replied
people need someone to feel superior to and sorry for
and my foolishness is infamous in this town so people delight in their game
i wouldn't have half as much fun, nor money, if i took the larger coin, they wouldn't come back

that's philosophical
x

[pikkujoulut]

Haha, sorry, no, I didn't notice your nick. That's what he said 15 years ago. I think he was wearing red and green at the moment.

[Red-Green]

Is this thread dead?
What is death?
x

[Tink]

Defining death depends whether you believe in an afterlife and/or reincarnation. I do.
My dog died last Monday. Where did he go? Is there an afterlife for dogs, or is there one big afterlife for all (once-)living beings.?

[Red-Green]

I too believe in an afterlife and reincarnation.
Sorry to hear about your dog
perhaps he is a soul on his own journey who once came to be your companion and maybe you'll meet again, somewhere somehow
I also believe in spirit guides and angels
x

[Tink]

Thanks! Yes, I believe in spirit guides. I'm pagan.

So, death is
... a cross-over to another consciousness level
... a new beginning
... ??

Do you believe in old souls? Bodies decay, but souls live on in new incarnations.
I've done regression and visited past lives, but perhaps that's another discussion.

[Danielle Blue]

I like this one

"what others think of me is none of my business" :)

[Danielle Blue]

This is my simple religion. There is no need for temples; no need for complicated philosophy. Our own brain, our own heart is our temple; the philosophy is kindness.

Dalai Lama:


Think Less, Feel More

wise wise words :D

[Red-Green]

I like this one

"what others think of me is none of my business" :)

Yes, i like that
i think that if we worry about what others think of us, then we easily - or uneasily- stop being our true self
x

[Red-Green]

Thanks! Yes, I believe in spirit guides. I'm pagan.

So, death is
... a cross-over to another consciousness level
... a new beginning
... ??

Do you believe in old souls? Bodies decay, but souls live on in new incarnations.
I've done regression and visited past lives, but perhaps that's another discussion.

yes, i see death the same
yes, i believe in Old Souls

as for another thread, i dunno, i thought about starting a new one, but ....dunno ....??:)
x

[mooingjune moonbeam]

What does change just by the fact that I exist?

[S_erendipity]

"Love is all I can possess and no one can deprive me of it."
Khalil Gibran

[S_erendipity]

Hi,
I like the phrase;
what you give is what you get
am not sure that is quite philosophical but it's surely true in life
i believe in the laws of karma and the universal laws of cause and effect and suchlike
positive thinking and visualisation works
what you think is what you get - if it's right for you
not saying that I'm good at positive thinking though.
xx:)

positive thinking is`nt quite enough...
you can`t think positive when you don`t accept your "shadows"
that`s the way to let karma go :)

[Red-Green]

positive thinking is`nt quite enough...
you can`t think positive when you don`t accept your "shadows"
that`s the way to let karma go :)

Yes, we need to understand our Shadow's nature and acknowledge it's power, and use it to our own good if it is not to overpower us and our efforts.
x

[S_erendipity]

Yes, we need to understand our Shadow's nature and acknowledge it's power, and use it to our own good if it is not to overpower us and our efforts.
x

You put that really well...
I`ve left the shadows nearly behind, and got a new lust for life then,
knowing that life looks ahead :)

[Alisson]

Hey.. do you know the song Radio, from a singer called Robert Peter Williams? (he is a famous singer, I swear for God) :p

Anyway... in the song we can find something like "If you offer nothing/ then everyone accepts".
It reminds me of Plato's Myth of the Cave!

If you read the book you will see that people were confined under a cave, facing a blank wall. The people in the cave were watching shadows projected on the wall by things passing in front of a fire behind them, and begin to ascribe forms to these shadows. According to Plato, the shadows are as close as the prisoners get to seeing reality.

As we can see, nobody was offering nothing to each other. When a guy set himself free, he saw a lot of things out of the cave, and when he came back to talk to the other people that there were more things in the world than the shadows - (in other words, offer something important to them). When this guy tried to do this they killed him!

This part of Radio make me think about philosophy!!!

Did you got what I mean???

[healymoral]

Álisson Go Away......uhauhauhauahuahuahuaháuhauhauha

[eri.fansclubangels]

about Plato's Myth of the Cave, i had to present like a tesis of this 2 years ago to my philosophy profesor, and i reaaaally learn to hate it, lol..
it was so hard... omg i still remember it, i didnt approve the reg asignature, thats why the tesis for.. and after that i never forget a test in my life!

[Alisson]

Álisson Go Away......uhauhauhauahuahuahuaháuhauhauha

Hello son... Nice to see you here!!!:D

[Alisson]

about Plato's Myth of the Cave, i had to present like a tesis of this 2 years ago to my philosophy profesor, and i reaaaally learn to hate it, lol..
it was so hard... omg i still remember it, i didnt approve the reg asignature, thats why the tesis for.. and after that i never forget a test in my life!

I don't Like Plato's philosophy. I prefer Aristotle. He used to a talk abous Justice, and as a Law student, he helps me a lot! :D

[eri.fansclubangels]

im stuying architecture.. and i never knew why i need to know that ¬¬ but i dont care, i hope never read it again!

[Thumpelina]

im stuying architecture.. and i never knew why i need to know that ¬¬ but i dont care, i hope never read it again!

Did you have to do a course in philosophy before entering architecture?
What one has to do at uni here...

The traumas :rolleyes: do dissapear. Now I actually enjoy philosophy for fun:)

[Alisson]

Now I actually enjoy philosophy for fun:)

me too :D

[Thumpelina]

me too :D

Did you have to do a precourse before entering law, or do you just like it?

Aristotle has a very famous qoute comming to justice, if I`m not totally wrong :o but I can`t remeber it.

Can you help me out?
:)

[Alisson]

Did you have to do a precourse before entering law, or do you just like it?

Aristotle has a very famous qoute comming to justice, if I`m not totally wrong :o but I can`t remeber it.

Can you help me out?
:)

here in Brazil, to became a Lawyer you have to study 5 years. in the first six months we have phiosophy, but almost nobody gives a fu*ck about it! But I really like and do complementaru courses, offered by the University!



Well.. Aristoteles(as we say in Brazil) have a lot of famous sentences about justice. In his "Nicomachean Ethics" He say that Justice is the biggest of the virtues and more wonderful then the stars, but I really don't know the most famous quote about Justice,m because he wrote a lot of things about Justice. :D

[Thumpelina]

here in Brazil, to became a Lawyer you have to study 5 years. in the first six months we have phiosophy, but almost nobody gives a fu*ck about it! But I really like and do complementaru courses, offered by the University!



Well.. Aristoteles(as we say in Brazil) have a lot of famous sentences about justice. In his "Nicomachean Ethics" He say that Justice is the biggest of the virtues and more wonderful then the stars, but I really don't know the most famous quote about Justice,m because he wrote a lot of things about Justice. :D

Well, sounds like you have the same system as us then. Have to do half a year of philosophy, and pass an exam, before allowed starting the actual study / course one`s already been acepted into. Makes no sence! And noone gives f### here either...

Good luck with lawschool:) Have done my 6 yrs; an awful lot of books.

The qoute I had in mind, has to do with law it think, when I gave it a second though.
Something like "law is reason beyond doubt"..?

[Alisson]

Well, sounds like you have the same system as us then. Have to do half a year of philosophy, and pass an exam, before allowed starting the actual study / course one`s already been acepted into. Makes no sence! And noone gives f### here either...

Good luck with lawschool:) Have done my 6 yrs; an awful lot of books.

The qoute I had in mind, has to do with law it think, when I gave it a second though.
Something like "law is reason beyond doubt"..?




IN the first six months we do 5 subjects. No one is about law. So, if we pass, we are able to do the next subjects. In each six months we do 6 or 5 subjects and the optional ones. This semester I chose Philosophy!!!:o
Are you from england
Good luck for you too.

PS: "law is reason beyond doubt" is a good quote! :D

[sadie.rob]

What people live with?

I for my dreams :););)

well you ??

[Kind of an angel]

I live life to the fullest, a year ago I almost died because a doctor made a mistake during a standard procedure! I recovered but I realized that life's too short as it is, so I promissed myself to enjoy every minute of it! Love, passion, fun, music, friends... Everything is important, life can slip through your fingers so easily

[S_erendipity]

1. Love
2. Faith
3. Hope

[luv4rob]

I live life to the fullest, a year ago I almost died because a doctor made a mistake during a standard procedure! I recovered but I realized that life's too short as it is, so I promissed myself to enjoy every minute of it! Love, passion, fun, music, friends... Everything is important, life can slip through your fingers so easily

Im with you, lifes too short to spend it worrying about trivial things, i much prefer to just have a giggle, talk total garbage, sing, dance and play, and look at handsome men............go on you all know you want to. xx:o

[Kind of an angel]

Im with you, lifes too short to spend it worrying about trivial things, i much prefer to just have a giggle, talk total garbage, sing, dance and play, and look at handsome men............go on you all know you want to. xx:o

You go girl!! (I dò like the ' look at handsome men' part):D xx

[luv4rob]

You go girl!! (I dò like the ' look at handsome men' part):D xx

no harm in looking lol just no touching hubs wouldnt like it.:o

[Kind of an angel]

no harm in looking lol just no touching hubs wouldnt like it.:o

LoL, hubs definately wouldn't like that! Overhere we say: you can watch in every kitchen , as long as you come home for dinner!:p

[Turtle]

1. Love
2. Faith
3. Hope

I agree completly.

:cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6FRRaa6RRA

:D

[luv4rob]

LoL, hubs definately wouldn't like that! Overhere we say: you can watch in every kitchen , as long as you come home for dinner!:p

i like that saying ;) i always come home for dinner as does hubs a wise lot you Dutch are.

[Turtle]

.........

[Tanya Williams]

1. My family
2. My friends
3. Robbie!!!

I love my life!!! :D

[ela]

1. My family
2. My family
3. Everything and everyone else

[1111]

If music be the food of love play on
william shakesphere

[Thumpelina]

Art begins where limitations end
- Oscar Wild

[S_erendipity]

"...let today embrace the past with remembrance and the future with longing"

Khalil Gibran

[soulsista]

yes, i see death the same
yes, i believe in Old Souls

as for another thread, i dunno, i thought about starting a new one, but ....dunno ....??:)
x

My dad used to say 1 out n 1 in
My papa died on Saturday Today there was a baby girl born into the family
Though the numbers dont always add up :confused:

[S_erendipity]

My dad used to say 1 out n 1 in
My papa died on Saturday Today there was a baby girl born into the family
Though the numbers dont always add up :confused:

I`m sorry for you, soulsista!
but in my family it`s the same:
My grandfather died the same day
when my nephew was born...

[Red-Green]

My dad used to say 1 out n 1 in
My papa died on Saturday Today there was a baby girl born into the family
Though the numbers dont always add up :confused:

Love to you and yours

[mrsbwillis]

Time waits for no man.

[soulsista]

Theres plenty A*******s out there and very few genuine gems (1 of my own sayings)

[S_erendipity]

Time waits for no man.

You should be ashamed of yourself!

[Robstoke]

Someone once wrote - I forget who...

" I talk to God, but he just laughs at my plans"

I was one of those people who had my life mapped out. I was supposed a supermodel/world leader/charity worker/company director/mensa member, married to George Clooney with 2.4 kids, houses regularly featured on MTV Cribs, etc etc by the time I was 21.

Needless to say 1 or 2 of those did not quite work out!!!

But, and sorry if this sounds mad, I find myself strangely inspired by Robbie's philosophy. His lyrics simply asks for help, understanding and love. And fingers crossed, it looks like he has is all now - love, success and happiness. He threw out to the universe asking for all the things he wanted and got them. I guess therefore if you don't ask, you dont get. Seems to me a good philosophy to go by.

[S_erendipity]

Someone once wrote - I forget who...

" I talk to God, but he just laughs at my plans"

I was one of those people who had my life mapped out. I was supposed a supermodel/world leader/charity worker/company director/mensa member, married to George Clooney with 2.4 kids, houses regularly featured on MTV Cribs, etc etc by the time I was 21.

Needless to say 1 or 2 of those did not quite work out!!!

But, and sorry if this sounds mad, I find myself strangely inspired by Robbie's philosophy. His lyrics simply asks for help, understanding and love. And fingers crossed, it looks like he has is all now - love, success and happiness. He threw out to the universe asking for all the things he wanted and got them. I guess therefore if you don't ask, you dont get. Seems to me a good philosophy to go by.

seems all a bit too easy how you describe it...
i`ve experienced that cosmic ordering doesn`t work when it`s not in accordance with someone`s lifepath...some thhings just have to be...but later you will always know the reasons why...and it`s always for the best!

[Robstoke]

seems all a bit too easy how you describe it...
i`ve experienced that cosmic ordering doesn`t work when it`s not in accordance with someone`s lifepath...some thhings just have to be...but later you will always know the reasons why...and it`s always for the best!

Ah!, is that why I still have not won the lottery and George Clooney never returnes my calls?

You are right, if it was meant to be, it was meant to be. But sometimes you need to give the cosmic force a nudge to make sure they are listening and not just 'laughing at my plans' :)

[S_erendipity]

Ah!, is that why I still have not won the lottery and George Clooney never returnes my calls?

You are right, if it was meant to be, it was meant to be. But sometimes you need to give the cosmic force a nudge to make sure they are listening and not just 'laughing at my plans' :)

oh yes, they are alway listening to us!
they always want the best for us...but sometimes the persosonal goal
is only reached by a roundabout route, the journey is the reward

[lolawhite]

oh yes, they are alway listening to us!
they always want the best for us...but sometimes the persosonal goal
is only reached by a roundabout route, the journey is the reward

Or.....maybe the 'end' of the 'journey' is the 'reward'??? My 'quote' for today....'only those who have 'Faith'.....don't panic'....;)

[lolawhite]

Like this thread :)

[Robstoke]

me too!

I am beginning to suspect that had I joined this forum earlier, we could have solved all the world's major problems, and still had time to enjoy a nice cup of tea, before having a good old boogie to the Robsters tunes LOL.

Maybe its true the important bit is not the destination, but the journey itself.

[berardi]

I think that the best thing is to make sure that you enjoy every step of the journey, rather than anticipating arriving at your destination.

To enjoy the crunch of gravel under your feet, the wind whipping at your hair, the ice and snow burning your cheeks and the sun's warmth on your shoulders.

Arriving at your destination then feels like coming home, wherever you are.

[soulsista]

the past is history the future a mystery n the present a gift as it claims to be (or something along those lines)

[S_erendipity]

the past is history the future a mystery n the present a gift as it claims to be (or something along those lines)

sounds similar to the chorus of "morning sun"...

[Robstoke]

I think that the best thing is to make sure that you enjoy every step of the journey, rather than anticipating arriving at your destination.

To enjoy the crunch of gravel under your feet, the wind whipping at your hair, the ice and snow burning your cheeks and the sun's warmth on your shoulders.

Arriving at your destination then feels like coming home, wherever you are.

Wow that's deep - I love this! Very true too :)

[mrsbwillis]

Best laid plans go astray. You think you have it all worked out then someone throws a spanner in the works. Thats life.

[robs_devil]

Anyone who want to talk about philosophy?

What`s your fave quote? Hope to hear it:)

Mine`s def "I think, therefore I am"

:)

he he thumper
great thread and great quote


i have to work through it

by the moment i love an einstein quote - although it is not certain if it is really by einstein or just an attribute, but i love it

"Zwei Dinge sind unendlich: Das Universum und die menschliche Dummheit. Aber beim Universum bin ich mir nicht ganz sicher."

roughly said:
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe."

[soulsista]

sounds similar to the chorus of "morning sun"...
Yeah So it does but its a saying I herd years ago:)

[I-wona]

Do you mean carpe diem ?

the past is history the future a mystery n the present a gift as it claims to be (or something along those lines)

[Thumpelina]

he he thumper
great thread and great quote


i have to work through it

by the moment i love an einstein quote - although it is not certain if it is really by einstein or just an attribute, but i love it

"Zwei Dinge sind unendlich: Das Universum und die menschliche Dummheit. Aber beim Universum bin ich mir nicht ganz sicher."

roughly said:
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe."


THAT is a seriously good quote!!!


not a philosopher, but T.S.Eliot;

"we made December June"

[Thumpelina]

the past is history the future a mystery n the present a gift as it claims to be (or something along those lines)


i really liked that one:) know who said it?

[sadie.rob]

my fav..: "The only thing unchanged is the change" (Heraclitus)
;):D:cool:

[soulsista]

Do you mean carpe diem ?
Sorry but I dont know what that means?:confused:

[S_erendipity]

Seize the day; it`s latin ;)

[soulsista]

@ serendipity nice;);)
"Thinking is recognised as being one of the most tiring activities known to man
Which probably accounts for so few doing much of it for themselves" by Watt Nicoll (His book titled Twisted knickers & stolen scones Ive just started it) (Im not being sexist btw coz its not my quote)

[soulsista]

i really liked that one:) know who said it?

I really couldnt tell you who actually holds claim to it Ive heard a few people say it seen it in a paper once under the thoughts of the day or something similar.:o

[S_erendipity]

i really liked that one:) know who said it?

found it :)

Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a mystery. And today? Today is a gift. That's why we call it the present.

Babatunde Olatunj (what a name :p)

[Thumpelina]

found it :)

Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a mystery. And today? Today is a gift. That's why we call it the present.

Babatunde Olatunj (what a name :p)

Thank you:)
And what a name indeed...

But a thought; as the gift it called a present, can it mean present as in time, i.e. here and now?
If that is not the obvious point:o
As in "carpe diem, memento mori"

[S_erendipity]

Thank you:)
And what a name indeed...

But a thought; as the gift it called a present, can it mean present as in time, i.e. here and now?
If that is not the obvious point:o
As in "carpe diem, memento mori"


yes, i think that`s what it means...time and space are illusions ;)

[Thumpelina]

yes, i think that`s what it means...time and space are illusions ;)

takes me to T.S. Eliot.
have you read Four Quartets?
"time present, and time past" and so on...

[S_erendipity]

takes me to T.S. Eliot.
have you read Four Quartets?
"time present, and time past" and so on...

no, i haven`t read it :)
i always wanted to read some stuff from philosophers,
Hesse and Nietsche is on my list...i`m interested in
Zarathustra and Siddhartha

but Deepak Chopra is a good author...
i`m reading the book of secrets at the moment
it`s a deeper insight of the causual connections

[I-wona]

I haven't read all you mentioned above. A long list.

What do you think about this one:

"All that we are is the result of what we have thought. If a man speaks or acts with an evil thought, pain follows him. If a man speaks or acts with a pure thought, happiness follows him, like a shadow that never leaves him."

[S_erendipity]

I haven't read all you mentioned above. A long list.

What do you think about this one:

"All that we are is the result of what we have thought. If a man speaks or acts with an evil thought, pain follows him. If a man speaks or acts with a pure thought, happiness follows him, like a shadow that never leaves him."


that`s a great quote ;)

"Love is the triumph of imagination over intelligence"

[Tinkerbell]

"Love is the triumph of imagination over intelligence"

Oh, that's why I never had it - I'm too intelligent! :D

[S_erendipity]

Oh, that's why I never had it - I'm too intelligent! :D

hehehe...stay as you are, tinki!
someone somewhere
is loving you :)

[Thumpelina]

no, i haven`t read it :)
i always wanted to read some stuff from philosophers,
Hesse and Nietsche is on my list...i`m interested in
Zarathustra and Siddhartha

but Deepak Chopra is a good author...
i`m reading the book of secrets at the moment
it`s a deeper insight of the causual connections

I`ve heard about that book. No offence intended but not things I`m into:)

You probably know, T.S. Eliot is not a philosopher, just a "normal" author?
When you have time, i strongly reccomend Four Quartets;)

[I-wona]

... and this thread has started with "I think therefore I am" :)

[Thumpelina]

... and this thread has started with "I think therefore I am" :D Thus all you need is ... :confused: thinking?

No, but if one is not able think, it is kind of hard to exist.

For instance, if people did not think, this thread would not have gotten a single reply:)

[S_erendipity]

... and this thread has started with "I think therefore I am" :)

i know :)

my fave quote today is: "i`ll be back, therefore i am..."

waiting for monday when my account will be deleted ;)

[I-wona]

Sometimes it is good to be back ... depending on where you would like to be :cool:
"Words, like nature, half reveal and half conceal the soul within" Alfred Lord Tennyson

[soulsista]

Do you know what would be handy for me the now to be able to read like five alive in short circuit:D

[I-wona]

That is not philosophy just a common saying: practice makes perfect (in my language: training makes master) good luck ;)

[soulsista]

The more you know the less you understand:eek:

[I-wona]

you are right

[Lullepups]

Sustain that consummation of visionary experience
and pleasure
And on the wings of perfect creativity you cross
to the other side;
Running and jumping in the meadow
of visionary appearances,
You fly into the sky matrix and vanish.”



Yeshe Tsogyel -Lady of the Lotus-Born
VIII Century-Tibet

[Lullepups]

aww :o

I would ask for still more, if I had the sky with all its stars,
and the world with its endless riches; but I would be content with
the smallest corner of this earth if only she were mine.

Rabindranath Tagore

[Lullepups]

I seem to have loved you in
numberless forms, numberless times...
in life after life, in age after age,
forever

Rabindranath Tagore

[I-wona]

You are choosing very beautiful poems that are like paintings. Well, "love is the only gold".

[Lullepups]

He tells enough white lies to ice a wedding cake :D:D:D

[I-wona]

Oh, a wedding again :) But actually now are we back to philosophy. Scientists claim everyone lies several times a day, average being 6-7 times. Of course, these are, in majority, the small, “innocent”, white lies but it makes true ”if I stopped lying I’d just disappoint you”. :rolleyes: Maybe it is just a way to survive ?

[I-wona]

And what about this wedding?

[Lullepups]

i think the liar has the fear to bear th consequences of the truth
every time we tell a lie, the thing that we fear grows stronger.
i`d rather be silent than telling a lie ;)

be authentic and honest to yourself whatever the consequences may be
even you have to risk your life
truth worth much more, it`s real life! :)

[Lullepups]

And what about this wedding?

it reminds me of breakfast at tiffany`s...(the plastic ring!) :rolleyes:

moooooon river.........

[I-wona]

That wedding ... Tiffany's with Audrey Hepburn, Moon river and ...

[Tinkerbell]

That wedding ... Tiffany's with Audrey Hepburn, Moon river and ...

Was there a wedding in Breakfast at Tiffany's? :eek: I don't remember that. I just remember that Holly (Audrey Hepburn) is looking for a rich husband and ends up with this poor writer. And in the middle of the movie her (first) husband turns up, who tells her her brother has died and wants to take her home to her umpteen children.
But it's a great movie. And I love Moon River. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOByH_iOn88

[I-wona]

Exactly, no wedding but she found a right person.

[I-wona]

i think the liar has the fear to bear th consequences of the truth
every time we tell a lie, the thing that we fear grows stronger.
i`d rather be silent than telling a lie ;)

be authentic and honest to yourself whatever the consequences may be
even you have to risk your life
truth worth much more, it`s real life! :)

It sounds quite serious. Are you often silent?
(However there are also jokes and changes of mind.)

[Thumpelina]

Oh, a wedding again :) But actually now are we back to philosophy. Scientists claim everyone lies several times a day, average being 6-7 times. Of course, these are, in majority, the small, “innocent”, white lies but it makes true ”if I stopped lying I’d just disappoint you”. :rolleyes: Maybe it is just a way to survive ?

Someone - who I can`t remeber:o - once wrote that "human kind can only take so much pain", or something like that.
So i think that white lies can be a survival mechanism that doesn`t only have to be negative..?

[Lullepups]

Exactly, no wedding but she found a right person.

from wiki:
At a bar, a drunken Holly explains her feeling of responsibility for Fred. She decides to marry Rusty Trawler for his money, but then discovers that Rusty has married someone else. Holly and Paul then spend a carefree, romantic day together, visiting the library and going to Tiffany's, where they have a cheap ring from a box of Cracker Jack engraved. They share a kiss when they arrive home, and it is implied that they spend the night together.

no wedding, but a ring...:rolleyes:
but the movie never explicitly reveals what Tiffany's engraved on the ring...
maybe i should read the book by Truman Capote to find it out :p

[I-wona]

I have not read a book eiteher.
Is it better if the end of a story is obvious? Perhaps it is for some persons :cool:

[Lullepups]

no, he should play the role of the cat :D
(after demonstrating the uncanny likeness to a rabbit)
lol

btw i`ve finished reading Siddhartha
it`s a real gem :rolleyes:
i also loved the alchimist by Paulo Coelho

[I-wona]

Well, bit risky to dress him as a cat now :rolleyes: However a cat is clever animal and does everything in its own way ;)

Regarding Coehlo, that is not my favourite author and a conclusion of Alchemist might be sad (in some circumstances).

[I-wona]

Well, they were together at the end however it took a long time.

[Lullepups]

good things come to those who wait :)

[I-wona]

I remember about this thread :) and I am waiting for something good ;) but I do not know what to think about a sentence "do not wait, it is never right time"

[Lullepups]

I remember about this thread :) and I am waiting for something good ;) but I do not know what to think about a sentence "do not wait, it is never right time"

do you know the meaning of "trust allah, but tie your camel"? ;)

[I-wona]

A good advice, indeed ;) Thanks. My google says it is an Arabian proverb.

[Lullepups]

A good advice, indeed ;) Thanks. My google says it is an Arabian proverb.

that`s all?

here you are:


Trust in Allah, but tether your camel first


Each day it happens: you could have done something but you didn't do it, and you are using the excuse that if God wants it done, He will do it anyhow. Or, you do something and then you wait for the result, you expect, and the result never comes. Then you are angry, as if you have been cheated, as if God has betrayed you, as if He is against you, partial, prejudiced, unjust. And there arises great complaint in your mind. Then trust is missing.

The religious person is one who goes on doing whatsoever is humanly possible but creates no tension because of it. Because we are very, very tiny, small atoms in this universe, things are very complicated. Nothing depends only on my action; there are thousands of crisscrossing energies. The total of the energies will decide the outcome. How can I decide the outcome?

But if I don't do anything then things may never be the same. I have to do, and yet I have to learn not to expect. Then doing is a kind of prayer, with no desire that the result should be such. Then there is no frustration.

Trust will help you to remain unfrustrated, and tethering the camel will help you to remain alive, intensely alive.


This Sufi saying wants to create the third type of man, the real man: who knows how to do and who knows how not to do; who can be a doer when needed, can say "Yes!" and who can be passive when needed and can say "No"--who is utterly wakeful in the day and utterly asleep in the night; who knows how to inhale and how to exhale; who knows the balance of life.

"Trust in Allah but tether your camel first."

This saying comes from a small story. A master was traveling with one of his disciples. The disciple was in charge of taking care of the camel. They came in the night, tired, to a caravanserai. It was the disciple's duty to tether the camel; he didn't bother about it, he left the camel outside. Instead of that he simply prayed. He said to God, "Take care of the camel," and fell asleep.

In the morning the camel was gone--stolen or moved away, or whatsoever happened. The master asked, "What happened to the camel? Where is the camel?" And the disciple said, "I don't know. You ask God, because I had told Allah to take care of the camel, and I was too tired, so I don't know. And I am not responsible either, because I had told Him, and very clearly! There was no missing the point. Not only once in fact, I told Him thrice. And you go on teaching 'Trust Allah,' so I trusted. Now don't look at me with anger."

The master said, "Trust in Allah but tether your camel first--because Allah has no other hands than yours." If He wants to tether the camel He will have to use somebody's hands; He has no other hands. And it is your camel! The best way and the easiest and the shortest way is to use your hands. Trust Allah--don't trust only your hands, otherwise you will become tense. Tether the camel and then trust Allah."

You will ask, "Then why trust Allah if you are tethering the camel?"--because a tethered camel can also be stolen. You do whatsoever you can do: that does not make the result certain, there is no guarantee. So you do whatsoever you can, and then whatsoever happens, accept it.

This is the meaning of tether the camel: do whatever is possible for you to do, don't shirk your responsibility, and then if nothing happens or something goes wrong, trust Allah. Then He knows best. Then maybe it is right for us to travel without the camel. It is very easy to trust Allah and be lazy. It is very easy not to trust Allah and be a doer. The third type of man is difficult--to trust Allah and yet remain a doer. But now you are only instrumental; God is the real doer, you are just instruments in His hands.

[I-wona]

Oh, Beduins, deserts and camels ... that’s not my world.

A story varies depending on a source one uses but in general your explanation is very good. My story tells about one man who should have tied his camel while the meaning remains almost the same. This story is on: www. tomthumb.org/trustgod.shtml Well, it is almost a paraphrase of “the only person you can count on is yourself”.

Indeed, it may be easy to say that something was likely to happened and it just happened with or without one’s action. Not acting and waiting for something good means a dependence on either a fortune or a miracle. However in some cases one is not able to do anything because there are other circumstances. Fortune, miracle and chance must exist.:cool:

" I’m doing what I can to …“ make things happen. In case of winning the tickets for a concert it must be the RW team who can help ;) Please :D:D:D

[frams]

exam in the subject tomorrow!! :| tell me more more more :)

[I-wona]

exam in the subject tomorrow!! :| tell me more more more :)

Please note that this thread can not be the only source of your knowledge. The opinions in this thread do not necessarily reflect RW's opinions. Therefore please study also the lyrics which is available in the section "Discography".

[Tinkerbell]

@ I-wona and Lullepups:

In Germany we also have the proverb "God helps those who help themselves", which means about the same: You still have to do your share to make things happen and not just leave it all up to a higher power.

[Thumpelina]

exam in the subject tomorrow!! :| tell me more more more :)

Have you started Uni so you`re doing ex.phil? :)

[I-wona]

@ I-wona and Lullepups:

In Germany we also have the proverb "God helps those who help themselves", which means about the same: You still have to do your share to make things happen and not just leave it all up to a higher power.

Not only in Germany I've heard that in other places..

[frams]

Have you started Uni so you`re doing ex.phil? :)

yeah!! had the exam today! haha terrible!!

[Thumpelina]

yeah!! had the exam today! haha terrible!!

hope you passed it, all that matters;) still can`t see the point in that exam...

[I-wona]

Perhaps it was an exam at the university. Anyway nothing we talk about, imho.

[soulsista]

All I need is love The beetles
Love makes the world go round
that which doesnt break you makes you stronger

[Lullepups]

from the children`s book
"Guess how much I love you"

...he was almost too sleepy to think any more.
Then he looked beyond the thorn bushes, out in the big dark night.
Nothing could be further than the sky, "I love you right up to the moon,"
he said, and closed his eyes. "Oh, that`s far," said Big Nutbrown Hare.
"That is very, very far."
Big Nutbrown Hare settled Little Nutbrown Hare into his bed of leaves.
He leaned over and kisses him good night. Then the lay down close by
and whispers with a smile,
"I love you right up to the moon -
and back"

[soulsista]

In the words of nineteenth-century Russian Bishop Ignatius Brianchaninov:

Wise temperance of the stomach is a door to all the virtues. Restrain the stomach, and you will enter Paradise. But if you please and pamper your stomach, you will hurl yourself over the precipice of bodily impurity, into the fire of wrath and fury, you will coarsen and darken your mind, and in this way you will ruin your powers of attention and self-control, your sobriety and vigilance.

[Lullepups]

i know it`s a bit off topic, but if you missed watching "what the b(l)eep do we know",
you should listen to Dean Radin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrHsJU1_fCc&feature=related p 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUta8xBk1EQ&feature=related p2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lImr_EFo314&feature=related p3
(the declaration why all is one)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHUUTy9lbrg&feature=related p4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ue0iN7Rfto&feature=related p5

[soulsista]

i know it`s a bit off topic, but if you missed watching "what the b(l)eep do we know",
you should listen to Dean Radin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrHsJU1_fCc&feature=related p 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUta8xBk1EQ&feature=related p2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lImr_EFo314&feature=related p3
(the declaration why all is one)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHUUTy9lbrg&feature=related p4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ue0iN7Rfto&feature=related p5

Good shout:cool:

[Thumpelina]

yeah!! had the exam today! haha terrible!!

hope you`ll let me know how it went!?!:)
most useless exam they have ever invented...

[I-wona]

i know it`s a bit off topic, but if you missed watching "what the b(l)eep do we know",
you should listen to Dean Radin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrHsJU1_fCc&feature=related p 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUta8xBk1EQ&feature=related p2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lImr_EFo314&feature=related p3
(the declaration why all is one)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHUUTy9lbrg&feature=related p4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ue0iN7Rfto&feature=related p5


And the last one about an internet and minds is interesting as well.

[Lullepups]

And the last one about an internet and minds is interesting as well.

fancy more? ;)

The unbreakable relationship between twin photons is known as “entanglement.” When two photons are in a state of entanglement, the state of one photon is determined by the state of the other. In this amazing relationship the two particles influence each other's destiny—even if they are tens of thousands of kilometers apart. Entanglement is the key to realizing quantum teleportation
In order to understand entanglement, let us consider the example of two entangled electrons born simultaneously.
The states of two electrons can either be A (spin-up) or B (spin-down). Whichever one is A, the other will be B. However, until at least one of them is observed, the state of each electron is unknown.
Now suppose that one of the electrons is observed and is found to be in state A. Thus, the other electron's state is determined as B at the very instant the observation takes place, no matter how far apart the two electrons are.
The amazing behavior of entangled electrons can be explained using “Uncertainty Principle*1”—part of the discipline of quantum mechanics. However, 20th-century genius Albert Einstein was skeptical about quantum mechanics, as it seems to imply that information is transmitted to the other (far distant) electron of the pair instantaneously—that is, faster than the speed of light. He believed that it would be determined at the instant of their creation which electron would be A and which would be B. This proposition was named the EPR Paradox, taking its initials from the names Einstein, Podolsky, and Rosen. This proposition stood in forthright opposition to quantum mechanics.
Are the states fixed to A or B in advance as Einstein contended? For a time, no suggestions were made about how it could actually be verified whose verdict was correct—Einstein's or that of quantum mechanics. In the 1960s, John Bell, a renowned Irish physicist, put forward a proposal for a groundbreaking method to investigate this question.
It was a difficult experiment. However, a successful experiment using photons was finally performed in the 1980s, and the results showed a victory for quantum mechanics! The amazing relationship of entanglement really does occur and Einstein was mistaken. The paradox was solved. With this realization, physicists realized that quantum teleportation might be possible, and if so would open the door to tremendous advances in computer science.

[I-wona]

We jump from philosophy to physics. At least both of them start with 'p' or 'ph' even :D
Thanx for posting it.

[soulsista]

Reincarnation??
Ive read a book about a researcher of this subject.
My sister told my nana when she was three that she used to be her sister Charlotte - my nana had a sister that died when she was young.
My sister is very wise and grounded shes no-ones fool mybe because she's been here before :D
Me on the other hand I havnt made good decisions because I havnt been here before?:confused: Perhaps or mybe its karma probably just unwise decisions (in the matters of the heart:rolleyes:) ;)
Still if I had a time machine I wouldnt go back I coulnt not now it would mean leaving what I have now n what I have now mean the world to me. Even though its a hard life at times:o
So I have come to the conclusion that next year I will start being more proactive with my talents:cool:

[Lullepups]

Reincarnation??
Ive read a book about a researcher of this subject.
My sister told my nana when she was three that she used to be her sister Charlotte - my nana had a sister that died when she was young.
My sister is very wise and grounded shes no-ones fool mybe because she's been here before :D
Me on the other hand I havnt made good decisions because I havnt been here before?:confused: Perhaps or mybe its karma probably just unwise decisions (in the matters of the heart:rolleyes:) ;)
Still if I had a time machine I wouldnt go back I coulnt not now it would mean leaving what I have now n what I have now mean the world to me. Even though its a hard life at times:o
So I have come to the conclusion that next year I will start being more proactive with my talents:cool:

i intend to do just that
what are your talents, soulsista?

i would like to go back to past lives, even if it`s just for a regression
just for a better understanding of the causal correlations nowadays...

[soulsista]

@lullepups lol:D casual correlations of nowadays can you expand??

Im getting quite a bit of being in the coincidence continuim lately havnt had any contact throught the tv as in Dr Who's Donnas grandad:D:D:D

Im quite multi talented Im like any1 if I put my mind to it Id probably be able to do it sometimes with practice though!!

Im going to focus on my writing n getting it out there!!

Dnt know if its good enough but I dont want to do a Robert Burns:eek: so its time I tried to get it published in some form;)

[Lullepups]

@lullepups lol:D casual correlations of nowadays can you expand??

:confused:
please have a pity on me, i`m german :D

[soulsista]

:confused:
please have a pity on me, i`m german :D

No probs I admire that you are very very good at english
Do you mean like if you were once a slave how that would explain your tendency to do things for people nowadays or if you were once a indian how you are drawn towards their beliefs n the likes or how if you were once a horse how it would explain the tendency to run for the hills every now n then or is that just me:D:D

[Lullepups]

No probs I admire that you are very very good at english
Do you mean like if you were once a slave how that would explain your tendency to do things for people nowadays or if you were once a indian how you are drawn towards their beliefs n the likes or how if you were once a horse how it would explain the tendency to run for the hills every now n then or is that just me:D:D

:D

no, that`s not just you
there are some visions i have concerning past lives
i can swear i was a ballet dancer and lived in france between 13th and 17th century,
and somewhere in a battle i was fatally injured
there`s still a place in my chest where i can feel the wound....

some people have marks of injuries from past lives
i know a person who was shot to the head in a war, and the
point is still painful nowadys :eek:

[I-wona]

Hello,

The concept of the reincarnation is not so popular in Europe, is it. But there is something called deja vu - the experience of feeling sure that one has witnessed or experienced a new situation previously. Those things are not the same but noone can explain when someone was in such a situation and how it happened. No, no, I don't know answer for that but maybe the reincarnation could be a good explanation.:confused:

[Lullepups]

Hello,

The concept of the reincarnation is not so popular in Europe, is it. But there is something called deja vu - the experience of feeling sure that one has witnessed or experienced a new situation previously. Those things are not the same but noone can explain when someone was in such a situation and how it happened. No, no, I don't know answer for that but maybe the reincarnation could be a good explanation.:confused:

maybe it is
but there could be another explanation-
parallel universes?

http://www.manyuniverses.com/

[I-wona]

Parallel universe - it's like Narnia (by C. S. Lewis), isn't it ? And the parallel universe was often used in literature and films.
A pure fantasy or a real theory that cannot be checked/proved by us.

[soulsista]

:D

no, that`s not just you
there are some visions i have concerning past lives
i can swear i was a ballet dancer and lived in france between 13th and 17th century,
and somewhere in a battle i was fatally injured
there`s still a place in my chest where i can feel the wound....

some people have marks of injuries from past lives
i know a person who was shot to the head in a war, and the
point is still painful nowadys :eek:

Yeah that book had lots of stuff like that in it I think it was called lost souls.
Interesting.

[soulsista]

Parallel universe - it's like Narnia (by C. S. Lewis), isn't it ? And the parallel universe was often used in literature and films.
A pure fantasy or a real theory that cannot be checked/proved by us.

Love that film that would be so cool to have a parallell universe n be able to come back n not have lost anytime here. Or like the dr with his tardis only he cant go on his own time line:confused:

How about this is a theory to deja vu when we dream of situations n similar ones come up in real life n its not been a dream that you have remembered dreaming so when the similar situation occurs you get the deja vu feeling.

I cant remember where I got this from but a theory is when you get deja vu you know you have done something right.

I get weirded out by it sometimes n think mybe its one of those critical times where youre gonna say or do something that affects your karma in the future or somethin. I've jumped up n down n said a bit of gobbldy **** in the past when Ive had deja vu just to see what happens n how I feel.
Sometimes when I get it Ill say it out loud other times if Im in company I keep it to myself.

Mybe dreaming is that parallell universe I dont know what I was dreaming the other day but I woke myself up with smiling!!

Talking of dreaming is any1 willing to own up to dreaming things n then they actually happen?
I have:eek:

Thats quite a post hope I didnt bore you:o

[Lullepups]

How about this is a theory to deja vu when we dream of situations n similar ones come up in real life n its not been a dream that you have remembered dreaming so when the similar situation occurs you get the deja vu feeling.

precognition?
it`s occurring most often in dreams, waking visions (such as i have), flashing thoughts
and the sense of knowing


I cant remember where I got this from but a theory is when you get deja vu you know you have done something right..

cool :cool::rolleyes:

I get weirded out by it sometimes n think mybe its one of those critical times where youre gonna say or do something that affects your karma in the future or somethin. I've jumped up n down n said a bit of gobbldy **** in the past when Ive had deja vu just to see what happens n how I feel.
Sometimes when I get it Ill say it out loud other times if Im in company I keep it to myself...

what do you make of karma?


Mybe dreaming is that parallell universe I dont know what I was dreaming the other day but I woke myself up with smiling!!

that`s not a dream
your soul is connected with your soulfamily
while you are asleep :)

Talking of dreaming is any1 willing to own up to dreaming things n then they actually happen?
I have:eek:

me too
but mostly i have to interpret them first

Thats quite a post hope I didnt bore you:o
not a bit ;)

[soulsista]

Lullepups

Yeah I get you with the precognition so would you class deja vu as that?

Karma well thats a Biggy Heres somethin I wrote linked to karma
Sometimes when being good
Just don't make the grade

Sometimes when I think of
all the things Ive said

Sometimes when my heads
full of mistakes Ive made

When being good just gets me nowhere liked I imagined it should.

And being bad well
It just aint fair

That would mean I didnt care

Being bad would I dare?

Coz as 2 U 2 me 2 me 2 U

My hearts so full

I just cant help loving you.

When being Bad I cannot do
Coz I wouldnt want to hurt you.

My soulfamily wow so Ive whole troop of my kinnda people nice wish I had them about n the physical world 2 Gets kinnda lonley:cool::rolleyes: Do you have anymore insights like this? Can you tell me more tell me more like is there any living in my street?:D

I met a captain in my dreams before I met him in real life.

I get direct dreams n sometimes I have to interrpret them
Wondering is that the One mind theory thing coming into play mmm;)

Ill tell you a werdish sort of one
I dremt a taxi pulled up n I got in n RW was in it I was like is it really U? He was like m hm. He introduced me to the driver Tom I think it was n then to Vince who got in the car. Then he said to me something about my dad passing away n I had said He already has I knew that but he said that wasnt it n I got a bit :confused: he had papers in is hand n he was showing me them I either woke up or that was the end of the dream anyway a few weeks later my papa sadly passed away n theres been a suspected foul play with his will. Read what you will into this :eek: It was prob my subconcious stirring in my dreams!!
Im going to write a story regarding my papa n stuff thats happened n Karma Killher will be the opening song.

Thanks :)

[I-wona]

Love that film that would be so cool to have a parallell universe n be able to come back n not have lost anytime here. Or like the dr with his tardis only he cant go on his own time line:confused:

How about this is a theory to deja vu when we dream of situations n similar ones come up in real life n its not been a dream that you have remembered dreaming so when the similar situation occurs you get the deja vu feeling.

I cant remember where I got this from but a theory is when you get deja vu you know you have done something right.

I get weirded out by it sometimes n think mybe its one of those critical times where youre gonna say or do something that affects your karma in the future or somethin. I've jumped up n down n said a bit of gobbldy **** in the past when Ive had deja vu just to see what happens n how I feel.
Sometimes when I get it Ill say it out loud other times if Im in company I keep it to myself.

Mybe dreaming is that parallell universe I dont know what I was dreaming the other day but I woke myself up with smiling!!

Talking of dreaming is any1 willing to own up to dreaming things n then they actually happen?
I have:eek:

Thats quite a post hope I didnt bore you:o


That’s not boring at all. :)

That movie isn’t the only example as the last video ‘You know me’ would be about the same, the parallel word.

‘I cant remember where I got this from but a theory is when you get deja vu you know you have done something right.’ – it sounds great however unfortunately I haven’t had any déjà vu lately. (sad face) I’m curious if some things went upside down it is a reason or a cause of not having daja vu? :rolleyes:

[I-wona]

Lullepups

Yeah I get you with the precognition so would you class deja vu as that?

I met a captain in my dreams before I met him in real life.

I get direct dreams n sometimes I have to interrpret them
Wondering is that the One mind theory thing coming into play mmm;)

Ill tell you a werdish sort of one
I dremt a taxi pulled up n I got in n RW was in it I was like is it really U? He was like m hm. He introduced me to the driver Tom I think it was n then to Vince who got in the car. Then he said to me something about my dad passing away n I had said He already has I knew that but he said that wasnt it n I got a bit :confused: he had papers in is hand n he was showing me them I either woke up or that was the end of the dream anyway a few weeks later my papa sadly passed away n theres been a suspected foul play with his will. Read what you will into this :eek: It was prob my subconcious stirring in my dreams!!
Im going to write a story regarding my papa n stuff thats happened n Karma Killher will be the opening song.

Thanks :)

You could have a power of clairvoyance.
And sorry to hear about your father.

[soulsista]

You could have a power of clairvoyance.
And sorry to hear about your father.

Thanks for your condolences.

I watched the tsunami thing the other day the Where was God one that was on 4. One of the Buddhist monks had said that the only thing in life we can be sure of is death thats some certainty isnt it.

A couple of days after my papa passed away in the clouds there was a man shape cut out in the clouds as if he was walking.
After my dads funeral a few years ago I saw a rainbow and had phoned my papa to see if he was ok He said that that was a good sign He thought that was probably a sign that he'd made it to heaven. So I think the man silhoette was my papa lettng me know he was alright.

Clairvoyant?? I think everyone has the some kind of sixth sense the other week before I logged on here I knew I had a pm n I was right. Wish I could forsee the lottery numbers:rolleyes:

[soulsista]

My name is Earl is soo funny:D

[soulsista]

That’s not boring at all. :)

That movie isn’t the only example as the last video ‘You know me’ would be about the same, the parallel word.

‘I cant remember where I got this from but a theory is when you get deja vu you know you have done something right.’ – it sounds great however unfortunately I haven’t had any déjà vu lately. (sad face) I’m curious if some things went upside down it is a reason or a cause of not having daja vu? :rolleyes:

Mybe its the opposite mybe its when youre on the wrong path n dejavu happens to let you think n fix it Mybe its both but youve got to decide what? Mybe its just you subconcious It is a weird feeling like timelines are drawn or something For me my mind says hey wait a min Ive been here before then the feeling is like wooo Hold up Happinin n my inner dialogues goin what do I do What do I do What did I do:eek:

The last time I had it was in November when I met a new baby for the first time. The babys great grandmother had passed away a week before n never got to meet her mybe it was her n thats why I got deja vu or mybe Id been thinking about the couple n her dad becoming a dad n how chuffed hed be n thats when I got it when he was holding her. Mybe it was what happe ned after that I stood up to a subtextual put down n the perpetrator made a arse of herself with the come back she made. Mybe it was because I had made the right decisions that led me to the situation. Who Knows?

When did you have it last?

[I-wona]

Well. I don't remember ... deja vu ... maybe once when I was in a house for the first time and I thought I had lived there before but it could be just a question of furniture ;)

Over 100 years ago someone wrote that 'we haven't got a soul, we are a soul, we have a body'

[soulsista]

Well. I don't remember ... deja vu ... maybe once when I was in a house for the first time and I thought I had lived there before but it could be just a question of furniture ;)

Over 100 years ago someone wrote that 'we haven't got a soul, we are a soul, we have a body'
:D
Nice quote and what a work of art the body is:cool:
N isnt it coincidental! that the human body is roughly made up of 70% water as is earth.

[Lullepups]

Lullepups

Yeah I get you with the precognition so would you class deja vu as that?

maybe
i don`t have deja vus any more
maybe it`s cause i`m following the path of the right direction for years? :)

Karma well thats a Biggy Heres somethin I wrote linked to karma
Sometimes when being good
Just don't make the grade

Sometimes when I think of
all the things Ive said

Sometimes when my heads
full of mistakes Ive made

When being good just gets me nowhere liked I imagined it should.

And being bad well
It just aint fair

That would mean I didnt care

Being bad would I dare?

Coz as 2 U 2 me 2 me 2 U

My hearts so full

I just cant help loving you.

When being Bad I cannot doCoz I wouldnt want to hurt you.

don`t mistake karma
it`s not about crime and punishment
it`s just the priciple of cause and effect
more precisely you reap what you sow


My soulfamily wow so Ive whole troop of my kinnda people nice wish I had them about n the physical world 2 Gets kinnda lonley:cool::rolleyes: Do you have anymore insights like this? Can you tell me more tell me more like is there any living in my street?:D

they don`t have to be incarnated.
but you can get in touch with them during meditations, they are with you all the time, the bond between soulmates is much stronger than to other souls. If you meet them in the physical life, it`s like a deep recognition...very exciting, harmonic, and there`s a deep knowing that you belong together. Much less frequent you meet your twinflame.
Here`s a link for definition:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn6qkqvTF_o


I met a captain in my dreams before I met him in real life.

I get direct dreams n sometimes I have to interrpret them
Wondering is that the One mind theory thing coming into play mmm;)

Ill tell you a werdish sort of one
I dremt a taxi pulled up n I got in n RW was in it I was like is it really U? He was like m hm. He introduced me to the driver Tom I think it was n then to Vince who got in the car. Then he said to me something about my dad passing away n I had said He already has I knew that but he said that wasnt it n I got a bit :confused: he had papers in is hand n he was showing me them I either woke up or that was the end of the dream anyway a few weeks later my papa sadly passed away n theres been a suspected foul play with his will. Read what you will into this :eek: It was prob my subconcious stirring in my dreams!!
Im going to write a story regarding my papa n stuff thats happened n Karma Killher will be the opening song.

Thanks :)

I also had a dream with my dad before he passed away...we were dancing (he was a very good dancer) in my dream and i wondered why we did...he told me that this is our last dance.
And his soul was with me two weeks before he died, we had to clear our karma...it was a matter of reconcilation.

[Lullepups]

Well. I don't remember ... deja vu ... maybe once when I was in a house for the first time and I thought I had lived there before but it could be just a question of furniture ;)

Over 100 years ago someone wrote that 'we haven't got a soul, we are a soul, we have a body'

yep, that`s true
the body`s the manifestation of the soul,
and therefore we should care about it... it`s
controlled by hormones, but spiritual ppl call them chakras
if they`re in a flow, we are healthy
if there are blockades, we used to get sick
this can be a psychic blockade too

Louise L. Hay is a good authoress dealing with this topic

[soulsista]

:D
Nice quote and what a work of art the body is:cool:
N isnt it coincidental! that the human body is roughly made up of 70% water as is earth.

page 45 "That in the whole of creation the one thing
God worked the hardest to make was man
Because man is the whole world in minature
But I think he must have worked harder creating women
Because women are much more bautiful
Women are a replica of heaven Taken from the play "Life is a Dream by Calderon

[soulsista]

yep, that`s true
the body`s the manifestation of the soul,
and therefore we should care about it... it`s
controlled by hormones, but spiritual ppl call them chakras
if they`re in a flow, we are healthy
if there are blockades, we used to get sick
this can be a psychic blockade too

Louise L. Hay is a good authoress dealing with this topic

Thanks for the links ;)

[I-wona]

yep, that`s true
the body`s the manifestation of the soul,
and therefore we should care about it... it`s
controlled by hormones, but spiritual ppl call them chakras
if they`re in a flow, we are healthy
if there are blockades, we used to get sick
this can be a psychic blockade too

Louise L. Hay is a good authoress dealing with this topic


Indeed, a body and a soul are somehow connected at least according to Deepak Chopra. It's a deep knowledge that needs to be study carefully :)

[I-wona]

page 45 "That in the whole of creation the one thing
God worked the hardest to make was man
Because man is the whole world in minature
But I think he must have worked harder creating women
Because women are much more bautiful
Women are a replica of heaven Taken from the play "Life is a Dream by Calderon

A very good quote.

Back to a question of a body - it's a quite important issue in this life, isn't it.

[Lullepups]

page 45 "That in the whole of creation the one thing
God worked the hardest to make was man
Because man is the whole world in minature
But I think he must have worked harder creating women
Because women are much more bautiful
Women are a replica of heaven Taken from the play "Life is a Dream by Calderon

sounds like a new version of the bible :)
i`m not well inversed in it
i have no religion, but i`m religious ;)

but i`m taking pleasure in some excerpts of the bible
like this:

The Lord is my Sheperd,
I shall not thirst.
He took me to a green meadow,
And led me to fresh water.
He replenished my soul.
He led me down the right path,
for his name's sake.
And I went for a hike in a dark valley,
but I didn't fear unluckiness, for you are with me.
Your staff and rod comfort me.
You prepare a table for me in the face of my enemies.
You annoint my head in oil and give me an overflowing cup.
If I follow the good and merciful route I will live long.
And I will stay in the House of the
Lord forever

[I-wona]

From time to time there are some religious aspects involved in the songs: ‘my Catholic shame’, ‘Lord, make me pure’ ‘And even though I talk with the Devil I only made the deal with God’, etc.

I cannot belive it, it started from a quote 'I think therefore I am' and we were touching almost all area of a science and not only ;)

Do you still think that it's worth to wait or that the longer you wait, the less fun?

[soulsista]

waiting....two headed coin innit its what you do while youre waiting now thats entirely up 2 u u can mooch about wagging youre tail while you wait (ie like a cat does if its annoyed) or you can make the most of it;)

@I wona What is it youre waiting for?

[I-wona]

Now I am waiting for anything good that may happen to me and sorting out the resolutions and my wishes for this new year. And one of these is to spent less time in internet. :confused:

What’s your plan for this year? Anything particular or any radical changes?

And it looks like a wedding is again on an agenda. This time for good.

[soulsista]

something good.....
do you think you have to make good things happen or do you think good things just happen?? What would you define as good?

Im kinna a Mr Brightside person in the sense I always try n see the good in the little things theres a saying by who I dnt know but it goes "take care of the small things n the big things in life will take care of themselve" or words to that effect. What do you thnk?

Youve got me thinking now about good things .....

Well Im going to get out more n have some fun meeting people (I hope)

work hard to get a A in college thinking of then doing my next year...or not...dunno n mybe do it in another town (Id like to but its easier in the same town wi travel etc:rolleyes:)

Do a open mike night

enter some poetry/writting comps with a view to gettin published

Go to Amsterdam for my birthday (on my bike...well mybe)

Stop smoking

Start my own dance/drama groups up

Start putting vids on my youtube channel

Do meditating n yoga on a reg basis (ie thats whats gonna fill in the smoking gap!)

Go in one of they gigantic hamster balls down a hill

Try snowboarding

Be a better me:cool:

4 Real its on :eek:

[Lullepups]

" i don`t get what i want,
but life is giving me everything i need" ;) :)

[I-wona]

oh, soulsista, I'm sure at least a part of your list will come true. Sometimes it is easier sometime it is hardly possible to have what you want. If only you are lucky (and maybe consequent ?) :)

Lullepups not so bad to get what you need. Maybe I should make a list what I need instead of what I dream of. :confused:

And a surprise for me. :) I didn't expect that, I was just looking for something else when I got RW again. If I had spent Xmas in England most probably I would have known about that. Robbie in 3rd minute of this show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpZdToObXfY&feature=related

[soulsista]

I just had deja vu when I was on the net investigating the id card scheme
Then I found a page with what I was looking for mybe it does mean youre on the right path :D
I feel like Ive a coathanger in my mouth Im smiling so much Praise the Lord.:cool:
I just got both what I wanted n what I need ;)
Hey mybe this is what I was dreamin about last week when I woke up smiling :D

[soulsista]

oh, soulsista, I'm sure at least a part of your list will come true. Sometimes it is easier sometime it is hardly possible to have what you want. If only you are lucky (and maybe consequent ?) :)

Lullepups not so bad to get what you need. Maybe I should make a list what I need instead of what I dream of. :confused:

And a surprise for me. :) I didn't expect that, I was just looking for something else when I got RW again. If I had spent Xmas in England most probably I would have known about that. Robbie in 3rd minute of this show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpZdToObXfY&feature=related

Imagine when he was looking for a wife n all that malarky that he had a ball n invited every women big or small to see if he could find her among them all n I never even had a ticket at all.:o

[mrsbwillis]

A man with one watch knows what time it is, a man with two watches is never quite sure.

Believe those are seeking the truth, doubt those who find it.

Beware lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow.

Each forward step we take we leave some phantom of ourselves behind.

No matter where you go or what you do, you live your entire life within the confines of your head.

We waste a lot of time running after people we could have caught by just standing still.

[Lullepups]

Lullepups not so bad to get what you need. Maybe I should make a list what I need instead of what I dream of. :confused:



but when you make a list it`s also a purpose, isn`t it? :)
give up all your dreams (but not your hope!) at first, then you`ll get what you need!

[Lullepups]

A man with one watch knows what time it is, a man with two watches is never quite sure.

Believe those are seeking the truth, doubt those who find it.

Beware lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow.

Each forward step we take we leave some phantom of ourselves behind.

No matter where you go or what you do, you live your entire life within the confines of your head.

We waste a lot of time running after people we could have caught by just standing still.


Amazing...:)

[I-wona]

Imagine when he was looking for a wife n all that malarky that he had a ball n invited every women big or small to see if he could find her among them all n I never even had a ticket at all.:o

If Robbie would have liked to invite all women at least the fans to a ball he would have had a lot to do ;) dancing, dancing, dancing … but that is not going to happen. Few weeks ago Lullepups thought that a wedding was cancelled but I don't think Robbie would organise the ball.

Some persons are lucky to find their love being a teenager or so, the others have to “invite to a ball” several persons and some are constantly changing the partners which might seem interesting but not necessarily for everyone.

[I-wona]

[QUOTE=mrsbwillis;95488]A man with one watch knows what time it is, a man with two watches is never quite sure.QUOTE]

That's interesting too and 'happy people do not count time'.

[Lullepups]

Dear god, make me a bird, so i can fly far
-far away from here
Forrest Gump

:D :p

[I-wona]

:rolleyes:

Wizard of Oz: You, my friend, are a victim of disorganized thinking. You are under the unfortunate impression that just because you run away you have no courage; you're confusing courage with wisdom.

:cool:

[Lullepups]

:rolleyes:

Wizard of Oz: You, my friend, are a victim of disorganized thinking. You are under the unfortunate impression that just because you run away you have no courage; you're confusing courage with wisdom.

:cool:

:rolleyes:

Conquer the angry man by love.
Conquer the ill-natured man by goodness.
Conquer the miser with generosity.
Conquer the liar with truth.
The Dhammapada


Do not try to become anything.
Do not make yourself into anything.
Do not be a meditator.
Do not become enlightened.
When you sit, let it be.
What you walk, let it be.
Grasp at nothing.
Resist nothing.
If you haven't wept deeply, you haven't begun to meditate
Ajhan Chah


To deny the reality of things is to miss their reality;
to assert the emptiness of things is to miss their reality.
The more you talk and think about it, the further astray you wander from the truth.
Stop talking and thinking and there is nothing you will not be able to know.
Hsin Hsin Ming


What is it that binds you?
You are not bound by any chains now.
Is it just the thought that you are bound that binds you?
Mental chains can only be broken by mental effort.
Zed (slightly edited)


Mindfulness is the aware, balanced acceptance of the present experience.
It isn't more complicated that that.
It is opening to or recieving the present moment, pleasant or unpleasant, just as it is,
without either clinging to it or rejecting it.
Sylvia Boorstein

[I-wona]

All in one
One in all

Now it's time to meditate ;)

[soulsista]

Rome wasnt built in a day

Better late than never

[Rami]

From some philosopher, called Jagger:

"You can't always get what you want
But if you try sometimes you might find
You get what you need"
:)

[soulsista]

Rome wasnt built in a day

Better late than never

It takes more effort to create and destrucion can be effortless

[Thumpelina]

We waste a lot of time running after people we could have caught by just standing still.

I really liked that one:)
Any idea who said it???

[I-wona]

Any idea if it works :confused: Anyone has tried ?

[Official Troll]

a year ago I almost died because a doctor made a mistake during a standard procedure!
I hope you complained to the hospital. :)

[Kind of an angel]

I hope you complained to the hospital. :)

Yep, but the walls didnt listen:p

[Official Troll]

A bit like here. :rolleyes:

[I-wona]

Science is organized knowledge. Wisdom is organized life.

[meandmymonkey]

1 my family
2 ROBBIE
3 my dreams(including the RoB again)
:)

[soulsista]

While listenng to Rob in Cologne tonight Angels Encore It brought to mind that years ago I was told that my angel had deserted me. I can see this. I also thought of the strenghth you have to then find when this happens. Has any1 experienced this? Do you believe in angels? I ask my angels to help me and others at various times and thank them for their help I stsrted this a few years sfter being told that about my angel...I would like to think I could be good enough to be an angel Im trying my best to get my wings....though I hope I remain as a human for some time ...I dont want to go yet.......Robbie Williams God Bless you n hold you dear in his heart. Ur the bizz n the shinizz.:D

[Lullepups]

i do believe in angels ;)

at the moment Michael is (still) by my side and sandalphon
today i felt the energy of an ascendend master, serapis bey :)


Serapis Bey - Chohan of the Fourth Ray



Serapis Bey is Chohan of the Fourth Ray, the white ray. Some fourth-ray qualities are purity, discipline, joy, hope and excellence. Serapis works with students to help them develop these qualities, gain mastery in the base-of-the-spine chakra and gradually and safely raise the kundalini fire that is stored in that chakra. He is a great devotee of the Divine Mother and of her light and fire within all souls.

Sometimes called “the disciplinarian” because of his fierce determination to save souls from self-indulgence and to move them along the most efficient path to their ascension, Serapis can help people prepare to receive the Holy Spirit’s gift of the working of miracles.

Serapis spent many lifetimes along the Nile, and as the Egyptian pharaoh Amenhotep III he constructed the physical temple at Luxor. His most familiar incarnation was Leonidas, the great warrior who led the Spartans in the famous battle at Thermopylae, Greece.

Serapis ascended around 400 B.C. His etheric retreat is located over Luxor, Egypt.

The Holy Spirit's Fourth Ray gift of the working of miracles is focused through the base-of-the-spine chakra.

The Ascended Master Serapis Bey is the Lord (Chohan) of the Fourth Ray and Hierarch of the Ascension Temple at Luxor, Egypt. Known as the great disciplinarian, he reviews and trains candidates for the ascension.

In the nineteenth century, Serapis Bey worked closely with El Morya, Kuthumi, Djwal Kul and other Masters to found the Theosophical Society.

The musical keynote of Serapis Bey is "Celeste Aïda" by Verdi and the keynote of his etheric retreat is "Liebestraum" by Liszt.

Serapis was embodied as a high priest in the ascension temple on Atlantis more than 11,500 years ago.

He was the Egyptian pharaoh Amenhotep III, c. 1417-1379 b.c., called "the Magnificent." He brought Egypt to its height of diplomatic prestige, prosperity and peace. His extensive building of monuments, palaces and temples included construction of the temple of Luxor, which was built to correspond to the outline of the human skeletal framework. Careful studies of its architecture have revealed that the entire temple explains many secret functions of the organs and nerve centers.

Serapis was also embodied as Leonidas, king of Sparta. In about 480 b.c., with only three hundred soldiers, he resisted the advance of Xerxes' vast Persian army in a herculean effort at Thermopylae. Though finally defeated, their fight to the last man is celebrated in literature as the epitome of heroism in the face of overwhelming odds.

Serapis Bey ascended in about 400 b.c.

In 1967, the Ascended Master Serapis Bey dictated the book Dossier on the Ascension: The Story of the Soul's Acceleration into Higher Consciousness on the Path of Initiation, which was recorded by the Messenger Mark L. Prophet.

In this book, Serapis offers profound answers to the questions of life after death. He outlines step by step how to follow the adepts of East and West, including Jesus Christ, who have been candidates at the mystery school of Luxor, Egypt, submitting to the initiations of the Sphinx and the Great Pyramid. Serapis teaches how to live life to its fullest in the here and now and how to consciously ascend (accelerate) into that higher reality which is the eternal abode of the soul.

[I-wona]

A good energy, a coincidence, a fortune, an angel - something uncontrolled and unknown definately exists ;)

[Lullepups]

WHAT IS A SHADOW?

The term "shadow" was first used by Carl G. Jung to describe the repressed or denied part of the Self. Robert Bly popularized this idea in A Little Book on the Human Shadow. Bly says that we were each born into a "360-degree personality." As infants we expressed the full breadth of our human nature, without editing or censoring.
As we grew up, however, we learned that certain slices of our 360-degree pie were unacceptable to the people around us. Maybe we were shamed for crying or punished for being angry. Maybe we were ridiculed for wanting attention or acting proud of ourselves. So, we learned to repress those slices of our pie; the ones that got us hurt. According to Bly, it was as if we threw these unacceptable qualities over our shoulder into a bag, which we've been dragging around behind us ever since.

we define "shadows" as all the parts of ourselves we have stuffed into the bag. These may be "positive" parts or "negative" parts. Our shadows are all those parts we have split off, repressed or denied — the parts of ourselves we are afraid to show.

We believe it is proper and useful to have a shadow bag, and to keep some shadows in the bag. But when the weight of the bag slows us down and prevents us from being who we really want to be, it is time to open it up. It is time to find a safe place to look into the bag, examine its contents, and see what needs to come back out.


HOW DO I RECOGNIZE MY SHADOWS?

You can identify your shadows by looking at what you project onto others. When you deny a trait in yourself, you tend to be very aware of that trait in other people. In the twelve-step tradition, they say, "If you spot it, you got it." This means that you are most aware of those traits in others which reflect your own shadows. You may react irrationally to one of these traits in someone else, becoming unduly annoyed and blowing things all out of proportion.

You can also notice the traits which you admire the most in others. Who do you look up to? Who are your idols? We often project our golden shadows onto others, and get stars in our eyes, because these people represent the qualities we have disavowed in ourselves out of a false sense of modesty. You could say that we paint other people with our shadows, for better and for worse. :rolleyes:

Another way to spot your shadows is to look for things you find yourself doing by accident. No matter how hard you try to keep your bag sealed, your shadows may leak out in a way that seems beyond your control.
For example, you may promise yourself that you're going to spend more time with your family, when you actually spend more time at work. You may find yourself jumping into a questionable relationship, when you know that this person isn't right for you. You may ignore your own rules about eating, smoking or drinking. When you repeat a pattern of behavior involuntarily, it is a sign that your shadow is running the show.

source: shadowwork.com

[soulsista]

whoa great posts lullepups:cool:

I recently watched Dr Paranthasus (with Heath Ledger) and then Avator.

I dream alot and sometimes find this dream world a nicer place to be than reality. Sometimes I have to nap its like if I dont lie down Im going to fall down.
I was thinking avator the soldier goes to sleep to become a avator and Dr Paranthamus (thats not the right name but I cant remember it:eek:) People go into the mirror and into his imagination where they can be saved or taken by the devil.
I dont actually have a theory or anything Im just linking them together :o

Dreaming .........consciousness....unconciousness.....colou rs being colours because they are molecules vibrating at certain speeds .....same as table being a table because molecules ......perception....:confused:

Dont know where this is going :rolleyes:
Felt the need to purge my thoughts :o

I'll look into the sepia after life thing Lullepups Thanks.

And no I've not been on the sauce or drugs .....Im mad enough without them:rolleyes:

[Lullepups]

hey souli (:D:)

i have to smile when you try to excuse your thoughts...:)
that`s what happened all the time when i spoke frankly about my truth,
i was condemned all the time...but this just happens as long as you`re unsure
and unconvinced with it. Now i`m really pleased with those who showed me my
shadows (and it was often painful).
Suddenly i `m finding more and more people
with common beliefs...but i`ll never forget that other beliefs are as important as mine :)

The earth is changing fast now, there are much more powerful transformative energies around
us...and more people are willingly to peel off old patterns (the chain reacting mass has been reached).
Those who don`t pay attention to it (it`s the path which causes massive pain) are used to stay in their behaviour, but it`s their free will and we have to respect it...but it`s needless to say that we will have hard times in the future...massive upheavals will come our way, this is nessessary, before the situation improves there must be chaos...it`s a natural and spiritual law = evolution.
You can see it almost in public...many hidden delicts are revealing, and the earth reacts on
the upheavals with natural desasters. But this is no act of justice, like many people say, it`s just the cause and effect of how we behave (i`ve given up the karma theory).
The astrology has it`s own definition for it, it`s the influence of saturn, the great stirer.

[soulsista]

The last weeks been a total low for me regarding external circumstances. External circumstances which are too demanding for me then has me internalising the frustrations and lack of opportuity and extreme pressure which then pulls the carpet of myself away from me if you know what I mean.

However chaotic internallising hopefully Ill come through it and evolve.

Just havnt been feeling that spring of joy through myself which I have. Mybe the tears last night that I shed will start the joy flowing again.

Thankyou for returning here Lullepups you are a great channel :)

[soulsista]

Disconnected Downer

Every so often
I feel like I am forgotton
It makes me feel rotten

Aquintances I have many
Friends they're ten a penny

I feel like noone gets me

So I keep my woes to myself
my thoughts my feelings
Seems like they are eating
my soul away

I try and fit in
But I always stand out
its what my auras all about

So forward I shine
Coz I know I cant hide

Then when Im all shined out
and theres noone else like me about
to replinish our sources
work through the courses

I have to find myself again

When I feel weak and its support I seek
all I see is grim faces on the street

I feel like Ive done
something wrong again
God I really need a friend

I try not to this show
We are all actors dont you know
reaction to action
involuntary or contraction

Sometimes i want to run and hide
from the mainstream confinement

[Lullepups]

The last weeks been a total low for me regarding external circumstances. External circumstances which are too demanding for me then has me internalising the frustrations and lack of opportuity and extreme pressure which then pulls the carpet of myself away from me if you know what I mean.

of course! if i didn`t know, i wouldn`t be able to spread my words
i walked through the deepest valley of my fears, and i`m sure if this wasn`t my last life
i would never hang on...now it`s time to heal my last great wound ;)

However chaotic internallising hopefully Ill come through it and evolve..

you will! :)
it`s just your decision to be happy or not...allow yourself to make mistakes, look what is still binding you, is it your past, your friends, parents or past experiences? Take a good look at it,
what is repeating all the time? just like i said, it`s painful, but it brings your inner freedom and peace...but you`ll have to be responsible for ALL your actions, there are no excuses anymore!
The truth is that our souls choose everything comes along our way so it`s easier to give up judging first, no good, no bad, just experiences

Just havnt been feeling that spring of joy through myself which I have. Mybe the tears last night that I shed will start the joy flowing again.

they will do :)
i can feel your sadness, but the good thing to know is you`re growing further, you can`t go back,
this is your comfort!

Thankyou for returning here Lullepups you are a great channel :)

not really :D
my channelings have nothing to do with my posts, they`re my inner voice :)
my visions are confusing and scary sometimes, recently about extraterrestrials, though i never had any interests in them and the ufo stuff (that`s too weird for me, it still is) :D
but i also get them as predictions sometimes, and that`s fascinating, indeed.

[soulsista]

Thanks Lullepups for your kind words. :)

Now you are healing your last great wound.......:confused:

My decision to be happy or not....I know what youre talking about but right now its hard for me to conjure this up its just where I am just now.

What is binding me ...the responsibility of single parenting.

What is repeating all the time = exhaustion. Failure to listen to my inner self

You believe our souls choose everything that comes our way...thats intresting,,,

:o I ment your a good channel for self awareness/development.

What do you mean by channeling? When do you have your visions? Do you seek them or do they come to you at anytime?
ETs wow Hope theyre friendly then:eek:

Have you heard of maslows hierarchy?

[Lullepups]

Thanks Lullepups for your kind words. :)

Now you are healing your last great wound.......:confused:

the physical separation from my twinsoul


What is binding me ...the responsibility of single parenting.

you know i`m a single mum too. Meanwhile i love it...i`ve got a wonderful relationship to my son`s father, we are deeply respectful to each other (he`s amazed cos i`ve been loyal to him all the time...he`s found a new girlfriend and i`m just so happy for him! )

What is repeating all the time = exhaustion. Failure to listen to my inner self

you can`t force it...maybe you could try a meditation, i often let myself go in the middle of the nature

You believe our souls choose everything that comes our way...thats intresting

yep, and they`re just happy...life`s just a game! if you get to your true nature you are like a child, wild and free! :D

:o I ment your a good channel for self awareness/development.

oh...ok.

:What do you mean by channeling? When do you have your visions? Do you seek them or do they come to you at anytime?
ETs wow Hope theyre friendly then:eek:.

can`t control it...i`m in a state of half-trance shortly before i fall asleep
you`re going to laugh, but they`ve got a lot of similarity to the way they look like in a hollywood Z-movie :D
one of them wished me all the best and i asked if i can embrace him...we did.
I must admit that`s extremely weird, what do they want? i have absolutely no idea
...sorry, this is so absurd :D...but what can i do? :eek:

:Have you heard of maslows hierarchy?

No.
What is it?

[soulsista]

Have you found your twinsoul? But are seperated from them or have you yet to meet them?

Yeah nautures good I havent been out n about much lately Good Idea!:) Just need to muster up the omph for it:rolleyes:

On the subject of ET's ...Different yeah .....but hey let the imaginaton flow:)

Masloes hierarchy of needs basically its a triangle and needs that are low in the hierarchy must be at least partially satisfied before needs that are higher become important sources of motivation


self actualization needs: to find self fulfillment and realize ones own potential

Aesthetic needs; symmetry, order and beauty

Cognitive needs; to know understand and explore

Esteem needs; to achieve be competent and gain approval and recognition

belongingness and love needs; to affiliate with others be accepted and belong

Safety needs; to feel secure and safe out of danger

Physiological needs; hunger thirst and so forth

[Lullepups]

ok, i think that`s enough for today :D:D:D

I`ll send you a pm tomorrow :rolleyes:
be weak, sleep and dream of sheep :D

[soulsista]

Characteristics of self actualizers

Perceive reality efficiently and are able to tolerate uncertainty

Accept themselves and others for what they are

Spontaneus in thought and behaviour

Problem centered rather than self centred

Have a good sense of humour

Highly Creative

Resistant to enculturation, although not purposely unconventional

Concerned for the welfare of humanity

Capable of deep appreciation of the basic experiences of life

Establish deep satisfying interpersonal relationships with a few rather than many people

Able to look at life from an objective viewpoint

(source introduction to psychology 11th edition)

[soulsista]

ok, i think that`s enough for today :D:D:D

I`ll send you a pm tomorrow :rolleyes:
be weak, sleep and dream of sheep :D

:cool:
Beeeed :D

[soulsista]

Behaviours Leading to Self-Actualization

Experience life as a child does, with full absorption and concentration

Try something new rather than sticking to secure and safe ways

Listen to your own feelings in evaluating experiences rather than to the voice of tradition or authoruty or the majority

Be honest; avoid pretenses or "game playing"

Be prepared to be unpopular if your views do not coincide with those of most people

Assume responsiblilty

Work hard at whatever you decide to do

Try to identify your defenses and have the courage to give them up

(source introduction to psychology 11th edition)

[Lullepups]

Characteristics of self actualizers

Perceive reality efficiently and are able to tolerate uncertainty

Accept themselves and others for what they are

Spontaneus in thought and behaviour

Problem centered rather than self centred

Have a good sense of humour

Highly Creative

Resistant to enculturation, although not purposely unconventional

Concerned for the welfare of humanity

Capable of deep appreciation of the basic experiences of life

Establish deep satisfying interpersonal relationships with a few rather than many people

Able to look at life from an objective viewpoint

(source introduction to psychology 11th edition)

yay, that´s me.

NOOOOOOOO :D
no perfection please, you must completely loose your identity and be what you are, not what you think you are (or what others think you are). It`s the simplest thing ever! just having a simple mind :)

[Lullepups]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36769422/ns/technology_and_science-space/

oops :eek:

[Loula]

Don't let your mouth speak before your mind

[soulsista]

Don't let your mouth speak before your mind

Sometimes easier to say than do:eek:

[soulsista]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36769422/ns/technology_and_science-space/

oops :eek:

Seems your onto something :eek:

[Lullepups]

Seems your onto something :eek:

hm...no, it was just irony relating to the link :p

but i`ve had a memory about a past life...omg :eek:

[Loula]

what can we do to cure this ill world?

[Lullepups]

i got this from another forum:

Perfection or imperfection are perceptions...

In Truth, All Is.

Isness is the permanent state of all eternal existence. Isness can be described as 'the complete and harmonious melding of all possible perceptions'. Whatever ones perception is, it Is, and therefore not wrong or right, perfect or imperfect, it just Is.

The bird is never singing the right or wrong song, it sings.

The grass never bends the wrong or right way, it bends.

[Loula]

the truth hurts but helps

[Lullepups]

what can we do to cure this ill world?

do you want a honest answer to this question?
start out and do it yourself!

[Loula]

do you want a honest answer to this question?
start out and do it yourself!

I am trying every day.

What do you think about Nostradamus said that 2012 all will be over?

[Lullepups]

I am trying every day.

What do you think about Nostradamus said that 2012 all will be over?

you can choose :)

[Lullepups]

Since the Fall of 2008, the planets in our solar system have been slowly moving to create a rare and unique planetary pattern, called the Grand Cross.

A cross is created when four planets are connected as follows: two planets are in opposition to one another, and are then connected at 90 degree angles to two more planets (also in opposition to one another). See diagram opposite.

This configuration brings conflicting energies into our awareness, thereby motivating growth. There is also a tendency for the opposing energies to become polarized, creating a stalemate situation.

The opposition connections create a tension where the two opposing planets see each other across the circle, yet must learn to understand and talk to one another in order to get along. Eventually, there is a meeting in the middle, a balance point, where the energies from both planets are equally utilized, similar to learning two new talents at once.

We spend time learning one talent, and then take a break from it in order to learn the other talent. Soon we have mastered both talents and are able to use them almost at the same time, creating a unique mix of talents that reflect, in turn, how unique we are as persons. Most everyone born has at least one opposition; they make us grow and expand ourselves. Otherwise we'd be lazy and ineffectual, or at least breezing through life without looking deeply at ourselves.

The squares create another tension. Visualize four people sitting at a table, each pair sitting in opposition to one another, yet at the same time sitting at 90 degrees to each other. They must move their bodies, making an adjustment, in order to face and interact with the people on their left and right.

There is a change of focus and mindset in a square, a restlessness of sorts, requiring us to take in new information that we didn't know we needed when we began. Sometimes we aren't really willing to do so; therefore the interaction is not always smooth or fulfilling. The squares usually connect conflicting elements, such as water and fire or earth and air. Each must figure out a way to connect with the other, find common ground so to speak.

This fixed energy can get in the way, where fear of change, staying in a rut, and being stubborn can slow down the onward self-awareness process. Initiative and confidence have been drained at an early age, therefore a rebuilding and developing flexibility has been required through life experiences in order to achieve much of anything. The Grand Cross pattern itself creates a determined, dynamic and forceful personality with a strong sense of purpose or destiny.

The current slow creation of the coming Cardinal Grand Cross involves four planets (Uranus and Jupiter, the Moon's South Node, Mars and Saturn, and lastly, Pluto and the Moon's North Node) that will be in the Cardinal signs: Aries, Cancer, Libra and Capricorn, respectively, in the summer of 2010.

The Cardinal signs align with the four angles of the natural wheel of the Zodiac, (see below) where Aries sits on the left of the circle (the Ascendant or Rising Sign), Cancer sits at the bottom (the I.C. or Imem Coeli or Underworld), Libra sits on the right (the Descendent) and lastly, Capricorn sits at the top (the M.C. or Medium Coeli or the Midheaven). These cusp points also coincide with the cardinal points of the ecliptic: the two Equinoxes and the two Solstices.

The Cardinal signs signal the beginning of each new season, the Spring Equinox (Aries), the Summer Solstice (Cancer), the Fall Equionox (Libra) and the Winter Solstice (Capricorn). Therefore the energy is characterized as being outgoing, taking the initiative, and active. Negatively, the energy can be associated with a lack of staying power.

A Cardinal Grand Cross pattern is somewhat inhibiting where the planets will want to release their outgoing energy, yet are prevented from doing so. The lack of self-confidence will need to be overcome, proving their strength, and if successful in doing so, will manage to achieve quite a lot in the end. Yet it will be a long process to do so.

The Fall of 2008 saw the first phase of the coming Cardinal Grand Cross, where global economics took a dive and a new "President of Hope" was elected in the US. Most of us have been affected by these two events. With Pluto entering Capricorn as of November 28th, 2008, we have also seen integrity issues of world leaders, our own Federal Government leaders, as well as local governments, ponzi schemes unveiled and corporate CEO accountability. Pluto will be in Capricorn until January 21, 2024. Expect more scandals and unearthing of that which has been hidden from view for decades. Issues of integrity re: our governments, and all the traditional institutions (education, law, medicine, science) will be transformed by 2024. What is now will be forever changed.

This Fall begins the second phase of more global and personal change. From October 30th to early December, Saturn begins its journey into Libra, squaring off to Pluto now in Capricorn. What will this mean for us? Saturn will slow down any positive forward progress, as if confronted by brick walls. Usually Saturn in Libra means a natural sense of justice, showing sympathy and understanding of other people. There will be more tact and diplomacy, being impartial, flexible and the need to see fair play. However, squaring off to Pluto means uncovering intolerance towards partners or colleagues, as well as power and control struggles.

Look to your charts to see where Libra and Capricorn are; this will tell you what Houses of Life Experience will be highlighted in your life. For me this will be my 2nd House of personal resources, self-worth and self-esteem, squaring off with my 5th House of creativity, play, fun, romance and children.

We cannot push forward that which is not ready to move, therefore why waste time and emotional or physical energies? There will be blockages, hence delays, and there is always a reason and a grand plan for it all. We will only know the why of it later on, after this phase has passed. Hence patience and flexibility will be required, in huge doses.

Special care must be taken health-wise prior to, during and for a few weeks thereafter as Saturn can cause some kind of limiting pain or uncharacteristic constipation. Hence the need for patience and flexibility!

We can feel frustrated from time to time due to the delays and inaction. We need to take a fallback position where other interests and hobbies can keep us occupied until the way is made clear for us. Forcing the issues will only garner a waste of time and further energies, as well as hampering our immune systems even more, and psychological well being.

Mercury, the planet of communication, reasoning and learning, will be heading into Retrograde again beginning December 26th and going Direct January 15, 2010. Expect the the unexpected, tune in creatively and intuitively, and be patient and flexible while technology and all things communication seem to not operate as planned or as per usual. A good time to take advantage of Boxing Day's original theme of boxing up and clearing out all the mess from Christmas - organize those closets and drawers and cupboards while working off the holiday cheer!

January 13 to February 15, 2010 is another round of Saturn squaring off to Pluto, however this is in Retrograde motion, therefore the energies will be directed inward, so no forward action will be available during this time.

June 25 to August 5, 2010 is when Pluto, Uranus, Saturn, Jupiter and Mars finally create their Grand Cross pattern, all aligning at the beginning degrees of the four Cardinal signs! This will indeed be a time of intense and dramatic change worldwide. Look to your own natal chart Houses of Life Experience to see where the signs of Aries, Cancer, Libra and Capricorn will be dancing and making changes in your life. Cancer and Aries in my chart are in the 11th and 8th Houses of Life Experience. This means my Future Self and the friends and allies I want to bring along with me (11th House), and my Joint Resources, sexuality and psychological self (8th House) will be at play, squaring off with Capricorn and Libra, respectively.

Finally, November 1 to December 26, 2010 is round two of the Grand Cross Pattern, adding in the Moon's Nodes to the mix. The bottom line: be as positive and loving as you can every day; be patient with yourself and others; be pro-active and take responsibility for your own stuff, rather than blaming others (i.e. the governments, doctors or lawyers).

It is a time to reinvent ourselves into a new form and way of being. Both Neptune and Uranus have been traveling in each others signs (Neptune in Aquarius and Uranus in Pisces) paving the way for all of us to open our minds and hearts to our Spiritual selves, incorporating that part of ourselves consciously into the everyday of our lives for the past 7-10 years. Notice the change in consciousness globally: the spiritual movies, TV shows, books, workshops, even people using crystals and aromatherapy in the workplace to reduce stress. None of which existed 10 years prior!

The Cardinal Grand Cross portends a time of living our spirit, consciously, with intent, for now on. What side of the Integrity Fence (Capricorn) do you reside on? How well are you living your life Independent of others expectations (Aries)? How much Nurturing (Cancer) are you allowing for yourself, first, then others? Is Equality and for the Good of All (Libra) working in all of your relationships?

We live in interesting and challenging times! Are you ready for it?

source: sraseekerconnection.com

[Lullepups]

And God Said No

I asked God to take away my pride. And God said "No".
He said it was not for Him to take away, but for me to give up. I asked God to make my handicapped child whole. And God said "No".
He said her spirit was whole, her body was only temporary.
I asked God to grant me patience. And God said "No".
He said patience is a by-product of tribulations. It isn't granted, it is earned.
I asked God to give me happiness. And God said "No".
He said He gives me blessings, happiness is up to me.
I asked God to spare me pain. And God said "No".
He said suffering draws me apart from worldly cares and brings me closer to Him.
I asked God to make my spirit grow. And God said "No".
He said I must grow on my own. But He will prune me to make me fruitful.
I asked for all things that I might enjoy life. And God said "No".
He said He will give me life, that I may enjoy all things.
I ask God to help me love others, as much as he loves me.
And God said "Ah, finally you have the idea!"

Copyright © Claudia Minden Weisz (the mother of a Rett Syndrome child)

[Enlighten2012]

Anyone who want to talk about philosophy?

What`s your fave quote? Hope to hear it:)

Mine`s def "I think, therefore I am"

:)

My favorite subject! Studying Babyloian and Indian as we speak.
Babylonian because they created the first known celestial coordinate system, aka the Zodiac, and next on my study wishlist is Astronomy
and Indian because it applies to all, universalism...what a great word huh?

Favorite philosopher at moment is Karl Marx and fave quote about him, not from him is: “ The merit of Marx is that he suddenly produces a qualitative change in the history of social thought. He interprets history, understands its dynamic, predicts the future, but in addition to predicting it, he expresses a revolutionary concept: the world must not only be interpreted, it must be transformed. ” — Che Guevara, Marxist

I've read through this thread and there are some great thoughts happening here...... looking forward to being apart x

[Lullepups]

welcome, enlighten2012 !
nice to read you...

I would like to hear from you again :)

[cozerocks]

Among the sciences, astronomy and astrology occupied a conspicuous place in Babylonian society. Astronomy was of old standing in Babylonia. The zodiac was a Babylonian invention of great antiquity, and eclipses of the sun and moon could be foretold.

[Enlighten2012]

Among the sciences, astronomy and astrology occupied a conspicuous place in Babylonian society. Astronomy was of old standing in Babylonia. The zodiac was a Babylonian invention of great antiquity, and eclipses of the sun and moon could be foretold.

intresting... your either great with your words or this is straight from wiki?
if these are your words i'd love to hear more? :)

[Lullepups]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoAwuM4ZQbM&feature=related

;)

[Lullepups]

Saturn has now completed the entire transit through methodical sign of Virgo. What a relief, we shift into new area’s of mastery. One particular theme with Saturn in Libra is about “Balance.”But wait, balance is not boring or static. It is alive and in motion. You have to be quick and perceptive.


Enough is enough. It may be we are pushed up against the off-balance and “fed up enough” where we begin to deeply desire concrete change towards a well-balanced relationship, both internally (within self) and externally(life and with others). It is time to grow up, mature and be responsible. And the dreaded “P” word – patience…. in relating with Others or even with yourself.

So take a deep breath and let’s begin with the task at hand. Generally speaking, with Saturn’s transit through Libra, our attention is brought to the following themes on a personal or intimate level; taking a more realistic and serious look at one to one relationships of all kinds, is the foundation of the relationship stable and well nurtured, if each part is a complimentary equal, and if there is harmony and cooperation.

On a business level; foundation of the partnership based in integrity, harmony and proper values. Saturn in Libra will bring up weak spots around; if we need the approval from others, are we afraid to be confident and assertive, are we settling or overly compromising our basic needs within the relationship as it evolves.

Saturn in Libra brings up boundaries, limitations, how well or how equally is the give/take, as well as any place we may feel inadequate. Old ways of defining a particular relationship may change so that it honors both parties involved. Or perhaps the old parameters of what was acceptable have to change in order to honor everyone involved. It will be crucial to be involved in a partnership or relationship that is based in integrity, compassion and cooperation. We may even go over commitment issues, even within ourselves. We must step up and be responsible to make concrete changes so we are experiencing well-balanced relationships of all kinds.

Remember that ‘Relationship’ represents with anyone and anything in Life. It is not just about intimate love relationships but they are very much a part of the fabric of Saturn’s transit through the sign of Libra. Saturn shifts into Retrograde phase in later part of January 2011. We have quite a few months to take long and serious looks at the reality of the situation or relationship and make real changes for the better.

Saturn in Libra also has the potential to usher in brand new quality relationship(s) of all types as well. Some people have done their homework so to speak and are eagerly awaiting the manifestation of new experiences when it comes to relationship, partnership and alliances. If you are sincere and do your part, Saturn’s symbolic promise is that there will be equal recognition, success and opportunity of high caliber brought back into your life. Nothing goes noticed in the Universe, there is an equal give and take in all of Life. Saturn’s message in Libra is to help us restore the innate balance, harmony and integrity within all types of relationships, partnerships and alliances. We must work in cooperation rather than competition.

celestialspace.wordpress.com

[Lullepups]

today most people are in karmic relationships, which have got a high potential
developing the personality

how do you recognize a karmic relationship?
(this is my interpretation from my own karmic connection)

-you`ll get into high (non sexual) excitement with your partner
-feeling of intensive attraction and rejection, a mixture of fascination and panic
-one of both develops undefined guilt feelings and the other gets in anxiety
-could you describe it as a love-hate relationship?
-is there a need for revenge without any reason?
-do you want to be together though everything`s speaking against it?
-do you have the feeling that the relationship is worthwile but you don`t know why?
-do you allow to kill the person or to be killed in your fantasy? (important last 3 words:D)
-do you have the feeling of an unfinished, old story which is strangely effective yet?

when the karmic bond is dissolved (most of them breakup after this, cause there is no further way to learn mutually), you may have the chance to meet a soulmate with a less karmic background
these forms are based on more understanding, harmony and be-in-more-tune with each other
but sometimes still have lessons together,
which still have areas of conflict, but much more easy to handle (the reasons are mentioned above).

or you may hit the jackpot and meet your twinsoul
(if they are incarnated)
this is a love as it´s described in mostly all poems, lyrics and films
(all people do have a selective soul retention to it)

how do you recognize your twinsoul?
(i got this from a website, cause it was too large to describe :p)

-Chances are you've met through a set of unusual circumstances... totally unplanned and unexpected
-There is an instantaneous feeling that you have known the other before
-You felt an immediate and deep connection for one another
-There is an electrifying feeling between the two of you that words cannot describe
-The relationship is immediate... as though no time had been lost since you were last together
-It feels as though you had never lived before the reunion occurred
-You feel a deep sense of unity that you've have never known before
-It brings on feelings you never thought possible
-The two of you are inseparable
-When you look into each other's eyes time and space have no meaning
-There are no barriers between the two of you... the relationship is a totally open one
-Your conversations seem to go on forever
-The two of you have a strong urge to serve humanity in a deep and meaningful way
-You give to the other and never think of receiving in return
-There is a special sacredness to your relationship that transcends anything you've ever experienced before
-You still have karma with your twin (from previous lives) but the two of you resolve it all with total forgiveness and unconditional love
-Neither one of you are dependent on the other for your sense of self
-There is a real feeling of unlimitedness to your feelings... you have a strong sense of eternity
-Your feelings for each other are very spiritual
-There are no restrictions within the relationship... all is freedom without the need for ownership or control
-The two of you know without doubt that you have been brought together for a reason
-You do not compete with one another nor do you pretend to be other than who you are
-In spite of your sameness there is no doubt you feel a sense of completion through the other
-Trust, patience, acceptance of each other's weaknesses happen automatically
-There is a great sense of purpose and meaning to the relationship
-Your sexuality with one another is a sacred act that celebrates the unconditional love you have for one another
-When you look into the other's eyes you see yourself
-You experience a sense of completeness that is without comparison

this might seems to be the perfekt match, but to be considered in advance, you won`t meet and live happily ever after.
some twinsouls will enter a partnership and some won`t. it depends on what is planned for this life and if the lessons are completed. Claims to power, jealousy and perception of possession, which are demands of the ego, have no purpose in this connection.

i hope it was understandable (linguistic and with regards to content) :)



The only important thing in life are the traces of love that we leave behind when we have to leave unasked and say farewell
Albert Schweitzer

[soulsista]

Dont know where else to post this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZBSj9LbMFs&feature=fvw
Its about haarp has anyone heard of this?

[Lullepups]

yes
but i`ve never been interested in conspiracy theories that much
i was particularly interested in what`s happening inside of me
the outside searching is mostly the beginning (until it brings you back inwards again)

btw,it`s amazing what`s going on actually
i`m a part of some people
and it has finally clicked with some of them
relating to their life purpose...
it`s a magnificent time quality now
everything`s going so fast whilst the past was slow and stolid
the longing for corresponding bodily,mental and spiritual balance is increasing,
self-responsibility is arising...i`m thrilled :)

[soulsista]

yes
but i`ve never been interested in conspiracy theories that much
i was particularly interested in what`s happening inside of me
the outside searching is mostly the beginning (until it brings you back inwards again)

btw,it`s amazing what`s going on actually
i`m a part of some people
and it has finally clicked with some of them
relating to their life purpose...
it`s a magnificent time quality now
everything`s going so fast whilst the past was slow and stolid
the longing for corresponding bodily,mental and spiritual balance is increasing,
self-responsibility is arising...i`m thrilled :)

:cool:

[soulsista]

Get this I was trying to write an indian sort of noise you know as in when a dance is being done....I wrote aya

So I've googled aya n opened a pandoras box if you will!

I found this http://www.stuartwilde.com/articles/ayahuasca/mystery_goddess_aya.html and theres more (who used to say that"theres more" from tv ...never mind must be the haarp/fluoride/chem trails/molehills going for me:rolleyes: :D:eek:)

more stuff about aya the godess

n a bit about aya in the Koran/bible

n some interesting definitions on urban dictionary

Nice

[Lullepups]

Get this I was trying to write an indian sort of noise you know as in when a dance is being done....I wrote aya

So I've googled aya n opened a pandoras box if you will!

I found this http://www.stuartwilde.com/articles/ayahuasca/mystery_goddess_aya.html and theres more (who used to say that"theres more" from tv ...never mind must be the haarp/fluoride/chem trails/molehills going for me:rolleyes: :D:eek:)

more stuff about aya the godess

n a bit about aya in the Koran/bible

n some interesting definitions on urban dictionary

Nice

you should ask my friend Thomas for his ayahuasca experiences *loool*
i guess it wasn`t the best idea of his life :rolleyes:
i have no idea where he is now, he`s probably doing his globetrotter thing again...
searching and no end in sight, but he won`t arrive to himself that way ;)

[Lullepups]

...or the fear of letting go

at some point in my life (isn`t long ago) everything seems lost...
the love of my life was (apparently) gone and i also had loads of fears of my financial situation...
sometimes i didn`t know how to make it through til the end of month (i was mostly afraid for my son), and i fell ito a deep dark hole

what i always knew is that i`d never give up, cause there have been moments in my life when i`ve seen the "light", when i was at one with all...but how was it possible to make it a permanent condition?

all i should know is to pray, and i did, asking god what to do...
and it seems as if god answered :

"DO YOU TRUST ME?"

i said: yes i do, but i don`know how i will make it!!!
(guess i expected a kind of instruction)

and it replied once more:

"DO YOU TRUST ME?"

"yes, but...."

"stop!!!...DO YOU TRUST ME?"

i guess that`s when my heart opened and i let go everything. It takes a lot of trust to give up the control over the complete life without suffering and fears of how will it all be and where do we will get.

i got into a healing flow and a phase of regeneration, but i always had and still have to renew the control of my thoughts and transform them into a "everything`s alright, otherwise it wouldn`t be" or "only if i change my inner world the outer will follow" , and i felt the first time what it means to love unconditional with my heart, a thing i only knew with my mind. Additionally i started to love myself the most, and it implies that i wasn`t longer willing to be manipulated and i had to set clear limits (these two forms of love go hand in hand).

something magical happened: it seems as if the right things came to me wondrous ways; whenever i needed something quite urgent it came to me (material and emotional)...i found a companion, a "heavenly sister", after all the friends whom i`ve trusted were gone (even my clairvoyant), and i know we`ve been reunited by fate to help each other cause we have similar life conditions.

money came to me whenever i needed some (sometime it`s too funny how "they" arrange things) , and my relations to others moved into a clear positive direction, i know now that i will work with people some day and i`m doing further steps to that effect now.

i live abundantly now, i´m not on a low flame anymore. I am very thankful to all the things are happening, and that`s causing a chain reaction: the more thankful i am the more i get back...joy is doubled when you share it...

and that`s the reason i`m writing this, i know it`s my life task bringing people back home to their hearts

...and please don`t believe that it`s easy for me talking like this, cause there is still a fear of speaking from my heart, but my guides communicated that it`s time to share my luck and my experiences

i have to admit that it isn`t an easy way...it`really not , but i came to the conclusion that it`s not possible without pain and suffer, cause you can`t see the light without any shadows...that`s the price, but it`s really worth it!!! (if i`d know how soothing it is i would have done it long before:D)

unfortunately i`m not able to write more due to speech differences, but i know that it will come clearly to the right ones sooner or later...it doesn`t matter

thanks for your attention!
much love to you all :)